Theft Deterrents

[NuclearN8]

I routinely take pictures of my rig, video even if needed for documentation purposes, keep all my receipts and have everything aftermarket insured.

Then I don't worry about it... it's just crap that in the big scheme of things really doesn't matter.

As others have eluded, if someone wants it bad enough, they'll find a way to remove it.

 

[Ducmonsta]

bringing this back...

but has anyone heard of skids or sliders getting stolen?

they are fairly expensive but also large and unwieldy... has anyone had theirs stolen? or should i even think twice about just mounting em (skids/sliders) up and being done with em?

was looking at these: security fasteners but it might be overkill... just wondering if anybody has heard of or had their large, heavy, metal bits stolen. because with money tight i would like to make every effort to keep hold of my large purchases.

personally, i feel like they aren't worth stealing because they are rather large, rather heavy, and would only fit a specific vehicle and a small part of that vehicles base... but i don't tend to steal things, and don't tend to understand criminals real well... :crazy:

what do you guys think?

I wouldn't be concern at the least bit. If a would be thief really wanted to take those sliders, they would be more inclined to steal the entire truck and remove them with discretion. But if all you want is peace of mind, go with the reversible option and get the fasteners.

Side note: In light of some of the other threads that have popped up recently,I wanted to thank you for reviving a thread after you obviously spent time to research your concern. You will get helpful advice from the community in general than you would if you had started your own thread. Even in this case, I would have found it justifiable if you did.

 

[Friggin Idiot]

Watch out with all the 556 off shoots, a lot of guys are getting them to run in their 556 uppers, changing the guns sound to boom instead of its normal bang.

Hijack - Any wildcat round has tradeoffs and benefits. Personally I'm not a fan of 5.56 for defense, it's a fast little round great for coyotes and other short-medium range small targets. The .223/5.56 round was never designed for short barrels, and it's a waste in them (more boom, less velocity), as shown at Barrel by the Inch. Since you're running at those velocities anyway with a short barrel, why not use the powder to push a bigger caliber, like a .308 round. Cutting off the scrawny neck and putting a .308 round in the same cartridge to form the .300 blackout wasn't a bad idea. It's bigger caliber so bigger holes. It doesn't run as fast so you can actually suppress it, less powder means you can use shorter barrels without all the noise. That comes with a range trade off, so you won't be shooting one 500 yards. But then again how many people actually shoot their AR 500 yards to start with? IMHO 500 yards is a range at which you need to be using a more traditional hunting rifle with good magnification, not a semi-auto loaded with a flashlight, laser sight, reflex sight with magnifier, and a foregrip. A pair of pliers makes a poor hammer, use the right tool for the job.

I like 300BLK in idea, but in reality, the ammo is hard to come by and expensive. So instead of some wildcat chamber I have a 9mm AR instead. It's no 300BLK, but it's good for anything I'd need to shoot inside of 100 yards. Ammo is cheap and easy to come by, there's always a few thousand rounds in my cabinet to feed pistol practice too. The gun is just for fun, because honestly I'm not patrolling the sandbox for insurgents, or the jungle for Charlie. Home defense involves pistols and an 18" barrel shotgun, if I need more rounds than those can provide, I'm living in the wrong part of town or pissed off the wrong person!

 

[Mikey01]

Hijack - Any wildcat round has tradeoffs and benefits. Personally I'm not a fan of 5.56 for defense, it's a fast little round great for coyotes and other short-medium range small targets. The .223/5.56 round was never designed for short barrels, and it's a waste in them (more boom, less velocity), as shown at Barrel by the Inch. Since you're running at those velocities anyway with a short barrel, why not use the powder to push a bigger caliber, like a .308 round. Cutting off the scrawny neck and putting a .308 round in the same cartridge to form the .300 blackout wasn't a bad idea. It's bigger caliber so bigger holes. It doesn't run as fast so you can actually suppress it, less powder means you can use shorter barrels without all the noise. That comes with a range trade off, so you won't be shooting one 500 yards. But then again how many people actually shoot their AR 500 yards to start with? IMHO 500 yards is a range at which you need to be using a more traditional hunting rifle with good magnification, not a semi-auto loaded with a flashlight, laser sight, reflex sight with magnifier, and a foregrip. A pair of pliers makes a poor hammer, use the right tool for the job.



I like 300BLK in idea, but in reality, the ammo is hard to come by and expensive. So instead of some wildcat chamber I have a 9mm AR instead. It's no 300BLK, but it's good for anything I'd need to shoot inside of 100 yards. Ammo is cheap and easy to come by, there's always a few thousand rounds in my cabinet to feed pistol practice too. The gun is just for fun, because honestly I'm not patrolling the sandbox for insurgents, or the jungle for Charlie. Home defense involves pistols and an 18" barrel shotgun, if I need more rounds than those can provide, I'm living in the wrong part of town or pissed off the wrong person!

The bang to boom I was referring to is it blowing up. I was just reading a report on the 300blk when I wrote that. I could not agree more with everything else you said. 18 inch barrels is the actual perfect in terms of accuracy and velocity, size for most 9 mm and 9mm carbines are the bees knees when it comes to fun shooting autos.

I am to lazy to google the sources for you on the subject but there is a lot of info on Google and a shit ton of gun nerd articles on it just make sure they are reputable please. That boom sound tends to pop up when people listen to bad sources on the gun subject. When I get some sleep I might hunt down some for you.

Excuse any English errors my live in chauffeur is learning how to drive I guess.

 

[Friggin Idiot]

The bang to boom I was referring to is it blowing up. I was just reading a report on the 300blk when I wrote that.

That thought hadn't occurred to me. With the same size cartridge base and shorter overall length, even with the broader shoulder it's set so far near the base, you could chamber a 300BLK in a .223/5.56 barrel. The result is surely a boom of the wrong sort!

9 mm and 9mm carbines are the bees knees when it comes to fun shooting autos.

Hear, Hear! :uzi:

 

[jicko]

300 black subsonic suppressed SBR works equally well.

Watch out with all the 556 off shoots, a lot of guys are getting them to run in their 556 uppers, changing the guns sound to boom instead of its normal bang.

300BLK round will NOT chamber(bolt will not close) in a 556NATO gun...... so the chance of KA-BOOM is low (close to none). I think vice-versa is true too.

 

[Friggin Idiot]

300BLK round will NOT chamber(bolt will not close) in a 556NATO gun...... so the chance of KA-BOOM is low (close to none). I think vice-versa is true too.

Should not close.....
This guy had a different experience Bad Things
Check out the end of Page 5 as well, while his experiment doesn't take into account the compression of the air and powder in the sealed case, I'd say it's plausible. Remember just because something isn't supposed to happen, doesn't mean that it won't.
He was not alone: A, B, C

 

[kboxvegas]

Should not close.....
This guy had a different experience Bad Things
Check out the end of Page 5 as well, while his experiment doesn't take into account the compression of the air and powder in the sealed case, I'd say it's plausible. Remember just because something isn't supposed to happen, doesn't mean that it won't.
He was not alone: A, B, C

Moral of the story, if you are going to roll your own .300blk, it would be a good idea to use a Lee factory crimp die to prevent set back and allowing the .300blk from fully going into battery in a .223 chamber. Thankfully, I still prefer 7.62x39 over .300blk. One thing I don't need is more calibers to reload.

 

[G8RB8_12SR5]

So bringing this back on topic...I utilized state laws in WA where you can have unlimited dark tint on the back windows of a SUV and went with 10% all around and the legal 35% on the front and a 6" 10% visor on the windshield (also legal in WA). I also put a sun shade in the windshield day and night which basically blacks out the entire vehicle as the windshield lets in the most light so blocking it you can't see in. I've come to my car at parks at seen a hand print of someone trying to look in and see stuff but didn't do anything beyond that (I was in CA with WA plates so I figure it was inevitable).

I installed a Console Vault in the center console as added insurance and I keep my registration and insurance papers in there as well as anything else that may contain my personal data on it (name, address, things like that). All of my roof rack accessories and towing stuff has locks on it and have never really worried about that. The biggest theft deterrent I have though is not keeping anything valuable in the vehicle, almost ever, but definitely not overnight. If I do keep stuff in there though it's out of sight either tucked down on the floor of the backseat or in the trunk. Most thefts are looking for easy targets so I try to make it not look easy but my truck was "broken into" in my driveway once because my wife forgot to lock it, I didn't have anything taken except a jacket because I don't keep stuff in it overnight (you can see where I'm going with that one) so while it feels violating, nothing really happened (they saw the dog crates in the trunk so they didn't even bother going back there).

At the end of the day I tell my wife whenever she's worried about that kind of thing that it's just stuff and that's why we have insurance. Would I be bummed if my truck was ever wrecked, stolen, or damaged by thieves, sure, but is the family safe, that's what is more important, vehicles are replaceable people and pets are not.

Ok, I'm done rambling now.

 

[Mikey01]

300BLK round will NOT chamber(bolt will not close) in a 556NATO gun...... so the chance of KA-BOOM is low (close to none). I think vice-versa is true too.

It won't

That's 300 blackout in a 556

That's a bolt from a 300 blk that got loaded with 556.

This is off topic, but firearm safety is very serious and non of us are perfect or know anything about guns.