I have a 2006 V8 Limited Toyota 4Runner with 103K. I've owned the vehicle since 2008 when I bought it with 23K and have put mostly highway miles on it. I have yet to replace the timing belt, but I know Toyota recommends replacing the timing belt at 90K. I tried to search the internet and different forums to see if the timing belt truly needed to be replaced or if I could take the car another few thousand miles without replacing it. I couldn't find much info via my internet search - Any advice?
Timing Belt Change 2006 V8 Limited 4runner
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Zuke
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The 4.7 V8 is an "interference" engine, which means if the belt breaks the valves may drop into the cylinders and major damage will occur. I would get it changed asap. I believe the 4.7 V8 is the only timing belt driven interference engine Toyota made.
With a non interference engine if the timing belt breaks there is no damage to the internal parts of the engine. You can replace the belt and the vehicle should run again.
With a non interference engine if the timing belt breaks there is no damage to the internal parts of the engine. You can replace the belt and the vehicle should run again.
empty403
New member
I agree with Zuke. I guess it's a question on whether you want to spend about $1000 for a timing belt & water pump or $5000+ to fix cylinder heads and maybe the pistons. Also, you need to take into consideration the time to fix the 2 different scenarios. 1 day vs 4-7days. There are always going to be vehicles that can go way past recommended service interval and also vehicles that have their timing belt break even before reaching the service interval.
It does put less stress on the belt, if you don't tow and mainly on highway miles . I have 84K on my '07 V8 and plan on doing the timing belt before 90K even though it's also mainly highway miles and I'm tight on cash. I just figured I'll need to do it anyways in the future.
It does put less stress on the belt, if you don't tow and mainly on highway miles . I have 84K on my '07 V8 and plan on doing the timing belt before 90K even though it's also mainly highway miles and I'm tight on cash. I just figured I'll need to do it anyways in the future.
So I've called around to a bunch of dealerships for quotes for timing belt changes. Some dealerships will only change the timing belt if you change out the drive belts, serpentine belt, engine seals, and water pump at the same time (~$1500 est. min). Some dealerships will only change the timing belt. Do the belts, engine seals, and water pump really need to be replaced at the same time?
Zuke
Member
They have to remove the serpentine belts to change the timing belt so it adds no labor cost. The water pump is exposed and simple to take off when you are changing the T-belt that is why most replace it when doing the T-belt change.
Call around and play one dealer against another and have a bidding war. My coworker got her T-belt on her V8 4R plus S-Belts and WP for $800 by pitting 3 dealerships against each other.
Call around and play one dealer against another and have a bidding war. My coworker got her T-belt on her V8 4R plus S-Belts and WP for $800 by pitting 3 dealerships against each other.
empty403
New member
ronniems,
Go to the dealer and request the quote with all the parts listed. Then go to rockauto.com and order the parts. Gates makes good belts. A1-cardone or aisin water pumps are good but try to find a thread for a recommended water pump manufacturer. Then take the parts and bring it to a reputable private mechanic. You may want to make sure the mechanic will allow you to bring your own parts or show him the internet price.
I just got a quote for $1130 for only a timing belt and water pump or $600 for just the timing belt. Rockauto has the water pump for $100. I'm likely gonna do the work myself and have my mechanic friend verify the timing belt installation before putting everything back in.
JB.
New member
You can decide whether to be in a hurry or not but the 90,000 interval appears to be quite conservative. All reports I've seen say everything looked very good when the job was done. Toyotas power train warranty is 100,000 miles....hmmm. The engine comes from the Land Cruiser and we know how those are used in many parts of the world. Since your mileage is mostly highway instead of desert sand dunes, it's certainly no time to panic but it might be time to start considering getting it done.
LIRunner03
New member
I just ordered the parts myself from a Toyota parts place I do a lot of business with and saved over $150.00 over what the parts would have been from the dealership. My truck just turned 94K miles and I have an appt this Saturday to put on the following.....labor only =)
Timing belt
Serpentine belt
Thermostat
Spark plugs
Water pump
pcv
Fuel Filter
They said around 4-5 hrs labor so when all is done the total with parts installed will be around $750
Timing belt
Serpentine belt
Thermostat
Spark plugs
Water pump
pcv
Fuel Filter
They said around 4-5 hrs labor so when all is done the total with parts installed will be around $750
00328
Senior Member
Wow, that quote doesn't seem to make sense. They've already taken off everything to get to the timing belt, the water pump is right there, simple remove and replace.
empty403
New member
Yeah, not sure. Maybe it's just being in California with the shop probably charging over $100/hr and making more money on the water pump. $530 for the water pump includes coolant and thermostat, but it's still too much.
Can't judge a belt by looks.
The timing belt is a wear item so the powertrain warranty doesn't apply. Belt breaks, you're out of pocket for the damage.
While the Land Cruiser has shared the 2UZ, it's likely those Land Cruisers used in the more remote parts of the planet are running the diesel engines. Crossing the Serengeti in a vehicle with a timing belt and an interference engine strikes me as a very bad idea.
-Brent
To offer up another pricing data point. Just had my t-belt, water pump, and v-belt done at the dealer today...$600 parts, fluid, labor. Service rep says it's a 5.5 hour (book) job with a $94/hour labor rate here in Wilmy-wood. Can't imagine you can beat that ordering your own parts and then paying someone to do the work. A local Indy (Toy/Hon specialist) actually wanted $850 using OEM parts. YMMV, of course.
Thought about doing it myself, but when you look at the FSM and realize you *might* save $200 by DIY...time to sell some blood or collect scrap metal if you have to. ;-)
-Brent
Thought about doing it myself, but when you look at the FSM and realize you *might* save $200 by DIY...time to sell some blood or collect scrap metal if you have to. ;-)
-Brent
t-Belt
time belt
water pump
seals
spark plugs
serpentine belt The total for these parts was 648.44 so they are charging 450 for labor.I have a mechanic friend at a Honda dealership that did my wifes Acura CL for 650 with parts.I'll assemble the parts my self and have him do the job,might be able to save a few bucks,but not much.
I just got a quote for 1100. from a dealer in New Castle,DE.I then went to the parts counter and priced all the parts.
time belt
water pump
seals
spark plugs
serpentine belt The total for these parts was 648.44 so they are charging 450 for labor.I have a mechanic friend at a Honda dealership that did my wifes Acura CL for 650 with parts.I'll assemble the parts my self and have him do the job,might be able to save a few bucks,but not much.
zerowkul98
New member
I did the 90k service AND the timing belt change w/ a new water pump about a month ago. The laundry list of what they did was pretty damn long, but if you want me to list everything they did, i'll be happy to.
I called around and got quotes from all theToyota dealership shops that are within a 10 mile radius. I brought the lowest quote to "my" dealership and they beat it. Price was just under $1500.
I called around and got quotes from all theToyota dealership shops that are within a 10 mile radius. I brought the lowest quote to "my" dealership and they beat it. Price was just under $1500.
JB.
New member
Yes, but it would apply if the change interval was longer than the warranty.
Good point.
It is fun. Everyone should do it at least once in their life. I consider it a full day project, simply because of the beer drinking.
Do find a write up or a manual somewhere. You have to take into account engine cycle location, TDC (top dead center) and make sure you keep everything lined up.
Since this is your first time. Take a whole weekend, invite some buddies over, as an extra set of hands always helps.
Read up. Buy beer... enjoy.
Do find a write up or a manual somewhere. You have to take into account engine cycle location, TDC (top dead center) and make sure you keep everything lined up.
Since this is your first time. Take a whole weekend, invite some buddies over, as an extra set of hands always helps.
Read up. Buy beer... enjoy.
Atlanta_man
New member
The crank pulley might be a little snug
Got a used '03 for $9,000 - 173,000 mi . Appears still had original tb
This was a 1 owner vehicle and the previous owner was meticulous and had all work done at the dealership . They gave me a printout of the service records since new , Tire rotations , detailed 3 times . He had the shop disassemble and clean the shift mechanism when he spilled a Coke in it . 2 brake jobs front and rear and 2 sets of tires . He had the power steering fluid flushed because he thought it looked dirty . There was no record of the timing belt or water pump being changed so I had them and the drive belt replaced . The total charge was $845.47 . My one complaint was a charge of $21 a gallon for coolant that is diluted with 50% water .
The vehicle was supposed to be in the shop half a day but apparently an overzealous service writer overloaded the techs with jobs and we were told it would be the next day before work was completed . I called the service manager and told them they wouldn't like the review I gave them on this forum . They called Enterprise and paid for a Chrysler Sebring to be delivered to our home for my wife to use .
This was a 1 owner vehicle and the previous owner was meticulous and had all work done at the dealership . They gave me a printout of the service records since new , Tire rotations , detailed 3 times . He had the shop disassemble and clean the shift mechanism when he spilled a Coke in it . 2 brake jobs front and rear and 2 sets of tires . He had the power steering fluid flushed because he thought it looked dirty . There was no record of the timing belt or water pump being changed so I had them and the drive belt replaced . The total charge was $845.47 . My one complaint was a charge of $21 a gallon for coolant that is diluted with 50% water .
The vehicle was supposed to be in the shop half a day but apparently an overzealous service writer overloaded the techs with jobs and we were told it would be the next day before work was completed . I called the service manager and told them they wouldn't like the review I gave them on this forum . They called Enterprise and paid for a Chrysler Sebring to be delivered to our home for my wife to use .
chucknorris
New member
got a best stealership quote today (Phoenix,AZ)
Timing Belt - $450
Water Pump - $320
Crank Seal - $130
$900+tax......:whipping2
Going to look around at private Toyota trained ASE certified shops.
Timing Belt - $450
Water Pump - $320
Crank Seal - $130
$900+tax......:whipping2
Going to look around at private Toyota trained ASE certified shops.
