Timing Belt, Radiator, & Oil Pan Project

If the HB is on really tight, short bolts have your torque on the outer sheave and you run the risk of separating the sheave from the rubber middle piece and ruining the HB. Correct are long bolts that thread into the inner piece and put no torque on the rubber part. Bolts are cheap, HB's are not.

This is excellent advise everyone should listen to.

When my brother owned my truck, he took off the HB and didn't use long enough bolts. A couple days later that inner doughnut (sheave?) separated from the pulley. It was like that for a couple years and it didn't seem to hurt anything but it's got to be there for a reason.

You can actually see the bolts come out of the back of the pulley, thats how you know you went in far enough.
 
I don't understand how you can damage the HB when the bolts are going into the inner sleeve?

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That inner donut thing that the bolts go through can actually separate from the pulley itself. That's what mine did.

If you just put the bolts in and threaded them a few times, it put massive strain on that donut and can cause it to come off.

On my donor truck, it had an aftermarket aluminum HB pulley. I also screwed that up by not putting in the bolts far enough and it actually ripped the bolts out and the threads.

Just make sure you screw the bolts in enough so they come out the back of the pulley....
 
Alright got the timing belt done. I will post photos later but my dad made a tool to get the crank bolt and we had no issues. The spring clamps and videos y'all shared helped immensely.

However, we were cruising along and get ready to put the new radiator in, and it doesn't fit. Bolt holes don't line up and it's rubbing against the frame. So we pull it out and try the old brackets, same thing. I measure the new rad and the old one and the new one is a 1/4" wider! And it's the Denso that plenty of people have used successfully. It seems crazy to me. We are putting the old one back and I'm just gonna fill with water only until I can find the right one.

Has anyone experienced this? Am I crazy? What radiator will actually fit?
I had this issue with mine when I replaced my radiator. Had to trim one of the holes in the 4runner mount with my oscillating multi tool:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/238690-why-you-need-odb2-scanner.html

Picture toward the end of the thread.

I needed just that quarter-inch for one bolt hole to line up. Other than that, it fit fine, and it works great.

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I don't understand how you can damage the HB when the bolts are going into the inner sleeve?

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It may not look like it, but the front is attached to the outer sheave. The back is attached to the inner core on the shaft. the rubber is in between.
 
Yeah I’m not too sure why this rad didn’t work, but it’s definitely bigger. The old one slid back in easily. There’s some pics below, it’s hard to capture a picture showing this but hopefully it’s good enough for a return. I ordered the Koyo on eBay and I’m hoping I have better luck.

Once we got everything put back together it was like 12am Friday night, I started putting coolant back in and it start leaking a minute later from the engine block. I was sure it was the water pump and I was freaking out thinking I’d have to re-do everything I just did. Thankfully it was the lower radiator hose bracket/thermostat housing which is accessible. Seems obvious now but you have to add new RTV when you put that back. Didn’t occur to me at the time.

Once we did that it was leak free and it started up like a champ. It’s running great now. I didn’t expect it to sound and feel different but it does, in a good way. Now all I have to do is swap out the new rad next week. That’ll be cake after this. Feels so good to finish a big project like this successfully!

I will post a few tips that I found for myself, including a few tools I did buy that I didn’t need and a few that I didn’t buy that I did need. Feel like that would be helpful for others trying to figure out how to tackle this. I’m sure some of these are obvious but I was pretty clueless going into this. Was nice to learn how it all works.

* To get the crank bolt off, use the starter bump method, it’s so easy. I used my dad’s 24”+ breaker for this. It helps to remove the battery to have room to set the breaker bar against the frame.
* To get the crank bolt on, we used the 2x4 method suggested here. Thanks Durk for that one. My dad took the HB to Home Depot to fit bolts in there. Had to make SAE bolts work but it was fine. Also get a 250lb torque wrench. I ordered a $40 on Amazon overnight that got re-routed so I got an $80 one at Home Depot, worth the extra $40 to finish in time and it’s a great wrench. Bolts bent a little bit but it was easy to tighten to 215 ft lbs this way. Photo below.
* I bought the snap on tensioner compressor, not realizing what it did. You do not need this if you are changing the tensioner which is included in the kit I bought. However, if you screw it up and have to re-do the water pump gasket or something, you will wish you had it or you’ll need a vice.
* On that note, you do not need to remove the AC compress or bracket. You do this to get to the tensioner. The compressor is easy to pop off with a ratcheting wrench but the bracket it ridiculously hard to get to. You can use a really long thin (1/8") extension and some kind of wobble/offset drive to get to the inside tensioner bolt and leave the compressor where it is. Photo below of what I used for this.
* And leave the tensioner loose when you put it back until you get the timing belt on. I saw Durk’s suggestion too late and the belt was a pain to get on.
* I bought the cam pulley holder thinking it would hold the crank, but it doesn’t, just the cams. You still need it if you want to replace the cam seals, which I did. But perhaps you could make a tool for this or use the tool you make for the crank.
* I highly recommend a set of ratcheting wrenches, so useful for the many many bolts you have to get off.
* The spring clamps are essential! I used them to hold the timing belt on the cams while I was struggling to get it on everywhere else. Thanks for that suggestion. Got 2 small ones for $1 each at Home Depot.
* When you get your cam & crank seals in, take them to home depot and get a big socket or PVC pipe that's the same size, wish I'd had one, the seals were really difficult to get on evenly.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys. Will report back after the new rad gets here.

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Alright I got the Koyo radiator in yesterday and swapped it out this afternoon. It fit perfectly. Something was not right with that Denso. It was also packaged poorly, many of the fins were bent which I thought was unavoidable until I got the Koyo. The packaging was excellent the rad was immaculate. They obviously care much more than Denso. I'm happy I ended up with the Koyo.

And I discovered today that my passenger side caliper is grinding on the rotor. No idea how that happened. Never heard the tab scrape and the passenger side shouldn't be wearing faster than the driver side. But it's fortunate timing because I had already ordered a Tundra brake kit that will be here tomorrow. So that'll be next up.
 
Just an FYI, but you shouldn't have to use RTV to seal the lower radiator hose pipe to the thermostat housing. Did you use a new seal on the thermostat?

I'm glad it's not leaking anymore and hopefully it won't in the future.
 
Just an FYI, but you shouldn't have to use RTV to seal the lower radiator hose pipe to the thermostat housing. Did you use a new seal on the thermostat?

I'm glad it's not leaking anymore and hopefully it won't in the future.

Yes I did. There was old FIPG or RTV on there. And it was definitely leaking from there. Is it possible that I didn't do the thermostat seal correctly?
 
Someone before you must have put in a new thermostat and put RTV on the housing, it did not come that way from the factory.

If its not leaking, I wouldn't worry about it. Just keep an eye on it in case it starts to leak in the future.

There was another guy on here who had trouble with a leak in that same spot. I can't remember what he ended up doing or if he ever followed up on it.

Good luck
 
One other thought, it may have been leaking because not all of the old RTV was removed. It only takes a tiny bit of it for the housing to not seal properly. There could also be some corrosion on the two mating surfaces.

When both surfaces are completely clean and a new seal is used on the thermostat, it shouldn't leak.

Glad its fixed though.
 

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