Tire help please!!
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stir_fry_boy
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I did a lot of research before I bought a set of these. Rated very high, long lasting, and do great in all conditions. BFGs have no mileage warranty, are overrated, overpriced and not worth it IMO. LTX AT2 are good for mostly highway but don't do well in the snow (at least for me). My needs were something aggressive, but not MTs. The Nittos on my TRD Pro are awesome. Not sure why people pay $1000 to switch those out. Narrowed it down to the Nitto TG G2's, Toyo Open Country AT II due to newer tread compound that makes them last longer (65K for P rated, ~55K for LT). Tried to stay away from E rated tires (overkill and stiff riding unless aired down). After reading LOTS of reviews, I chose the Toyo Open Country AT II in 275/65/18 C load. They ride really nice, a little more noisy than the Goodyear Adventure All Terrains mounted previously, but they are a more aggressive tread. They didn't do as well as the Nittos off road. Considered the Duratracs for a second but no longer. Lots of people really like Cooper, they rate well but don't look that great.
I did look at the Nitto Ridge Grappler but they are all E load in 18" size. 17" they have several C load sizes.
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RonMAIDEN
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I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on another set of Duratracs as they performed quite well for the last 7 years especially in the wet and snow and never had any issues with them off road. They are a good all around tire for a daily driver that will actually see some off road time.
Scramble
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Hankook DynaPro MT, I've been running these for over a year now & they are awesome for all conditions. Rated #1 in the 4 wheeler shootout. Mud Tire Shootout First Place: Hankook Dynapro MT
They can handle rain. :tongue:
They can handle rain. :tongue:
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Sean K.
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Without siping (or studs), I doubt any tire would be good on ice.
MtnT4R
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Another vote for the Toyo Open Country AT II. They drive great on the pavement, do very well offroad, and have a 65k mile warranty like someone else said on the last page. We'll see how they perform in the snow in a couple weeks here, but I'm betting they will do just fine.
Unless your 4Runner is mostly offroad in the dirt, I wouldn't get a mud terrain tire. They wear a LOT faster on pavement, are much noisier on pavement, and the bigger tread pattern isn't great for snow and ice.
MtnT4R
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Snow specific tires do well without siping or studs because they have a higher percentage of natural rubber, which stays pliable at cold temps and therefore grips the ground better. Bridgestone Blizzaks do very well in winter conditions, especially on ice.
Sean K.
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Blizzaks have siping.
Scramble
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Too bad studs are illegal in NY otherwise I'd use them. But yea any tire will slide on ice.
stir_fry_boy
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Studs > siping. No scientific evidence to suggest that siping does anything but make the tires wear faster. You get a little better grip in snow/rain, but it's not worth the money.
Sean K.
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The "science" according to the tire manufacturers is that the siping creates microscopic bonds with the ice.
But whatever....seat of the pants testing tells us that dedicated snow tires hook up better than regular ones. That 'little better' grip is what people are paying for. Whether or not that's worth it to you personally, is exactly that....a personal choice.
MtnT4R
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yup, I stand corrected. Should've looked them up before saying anything. I seem to recall them having a sponge like surface that acted like suction cups on ice.
DieselElectric
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I just went through this process myself. Ended up with Dick Cepek extreme country.
They aren't very noisy, been excellent in the rain, and I expect them to do well in the snow. The blocks have siping, which as mentioned above comes into play for snow. A little too soon to say for, but they seem like a great all around tire so far.
Picked up the set on eBay for $175 ea. shipped in 255/85r16
They aren't very noisy, been excellent in the rain, and I expect them to do well in the snow. The blocks have siping, which as mentioned above comes into play for snow. A little too soon to say for, but they seem like a great all around tire so far.
Picked up the set on eBay for $175 ea. shipped in 255/85r16
Falonious
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Sean K.
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I just meant I don't know of any dedicated "snow" tires (not M/S) that don't have siping.
Co4Fun
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Yep, for me that was what I was after...285 in a C. If I went D or E I'd go with Open Country's for sure. But Ridge Grapplers in C saves some weight.
Co4Fun
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I think suction cup tires are the best tires for ice
Awesome!
Seen these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN8VwD0V4RE
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