Toyota dealership put to much oil in, what do you think?

[Soneill]

I decided to drink a beer, think about it, looked at the NFL game on tonight (not to excited about it), then grab a second beer and go out there and drain some oil. Done deal. I guess if you want something done right, you do it yourself. Am I getting old by saying that? I don't care, its true.

Glad you were able to knock it out.

 

[EddieV4runnin]

An overfill of 0.8 quart is highly unlikely to cause any problems. You'd have to overfill it by several quarts before any issues with thrashing and aeration would become apparent, and even then, the likelihood of catastrophic engine damage is low. I understand the OP has already taken the excess oil out, but if it were me, I'd just let it ride until the next oil change.

:twitch: I beg to differ, that’s why seals begin to leak. Someone much smarter than me decided that’s what they wanted in their engine and that’s what it’s getting. Also don’t be surprised if you start blowing smoke out the tail pipe sooner or later. Excess oil will pool in the intake and get sucked in.

 

[ScoMey]

An overfill of 0.8 quart is highly unlikely to cause any problems. You'd have to overfill it by several quarts before any issues with thrashing and aeration would become apparent, and even then, the likelihood of catastrophic engine damage is low. I understand the OP has already taken the excess oil out, but if it were me, I'd just let it ride until the next oil change.

This. ^^

Several oil changes with my 4Runner now... and I'm going to confess that I just pour the extra .4 of a quart in. Thought I read its 6.6 quarts with the filter change? Maybe the OP's filter didn't get changed? Anyway, it's interesting because when I've poured in the rest of the '7th quart' the oil level is just ever-so-barely above the 'full' mark on the dipstick when I'm done. I do 10k mile changes with no issues so far.

Which just reaffirms my belief that oil dipsticks are not exact measures, and really only for reference purposes from one point in time (or miles) to the next. YMMV.

 

[jrandom]

Oil capacity
(Drain and refill -reference*)
With filter
Without filter
6.6 qt. (6.2 L, 5.5 Imp. qt.)
6.0 qt. (5.7 L, 5.0 Imp. qt.)

I always use 1x 5qt. jug (4.73 L) + 1x 1qt. (946 ml) and I get a little under the bottom mark, for what it's worth. The dipstick markings are so sh!tty that I Dremeled grooves into mine so I could top off with some form of degree of accuracy with a partial second 1qt.

 

[Pkniland]

Ive done four changes now and Im not sure how anyone gets an accurate reading with these dipsticks and 0w-20. It seems I always end up with oil in several different spots all along the dipstick.

 

[Crusifix]

I bet you are ok. I always put 6.5 and save the other half for the next oil change, or to top off, which I have never had to do yet, in 80K miles.

 

[Jetboy]

The only time oil over-fill would be an issue is if it is high enough to hit the crank shaft. Then it'll get frothed by the crank and could cause problems with pumping and oil pressure. It shouldn't cause issues otherwise. The crank case isn't pressurized. It's actually run at a slight vacuum. The problem is that we simply don't know how much more the oil pan can handle before becoming a problem. My guess is that 7 quarts - or even 10 quarts - would be just fine, but I really have no idea what the tolerance is.

 

[Baystate4Runner]

I just had my first oil change several weeks ago and this thread made we go check the oil level. Guess what? Mine is also over by about the same, if not more. I am guessing they round up to the nearest whole quart. So we probably have 7 quarts instead of 6.2.

I am not sure what to do as I have been driving it like this for over 1,200 miles with no ill effects.

This is how mine came from the factory! (see picture below) I checked the oil after the first 2,000 miles and this is how it looked (4 different measurements on different days warm oil, 5-10 minutes after engine shut down).

Filed a report with Toyota corporate as I was worried about long term issues having driven the first 2,000 miles with too much oil.
Corporate replied that it's impossible that the factory overfills new engines as it's done by robots. They sent me to a Toyota dealership to check.
Dealer checks oil - it measures the same level as with my measurements before - and he says that's fine and not overfilled and reported this back to corporate.
I made sure to submit my photo so everything is on file.

Opted for the oil change at my 5,000 mile service.

 

[flyrv9]

The last things I do after changing oil is to run the engine for a little while and check for leaks. Then I check the oil level. If all is good, I put the skid plate back on. I guess they did none of that! I'd take it back and talk to the service manager.

 

[Signess]

I just had my first oil change several weeks ago and this thread made we go check the oil level. Guess what? Mine is also over by about the same, if not more. I am guessing they round up to the nearest whole quart. So we probably have 7 quarts instead of 6.2.

I am not sure what to do as I have been driving it like this for over 1,200 miles with no ill effects.

For peace of mind and to document, I just got back from the dealer. They handled it well and confirmed it was over-filled, though they stated not by much. Anyway, they syphoned out the excess and I have a receipt stating such JIC.

 

[alphabeast]

This is how mine came from the factory! (see picture below) I checked the oil after the first 2,000 miles and this is how it looked (4 different measurements on different days warm oil, 5-10 minutes after engine shut down).

Filed a report with Toyota corporate as I was worried about long term issues having driven the first 2,000 miles with too much oil.
Corporate replied that it's impossible that the factory overfills new engines as it's done by robots. They sent me to a Toyota dealership to check.
Dealer checks oil - it measures the same level as with my measurements before - and he says that's fine and not overfilled and reported this back to corporate.
I made sure to submit my photo so everything is on file.

Opted for the oil change at my 5,000 mile service.

My dipstick looks like this with 6.5 quarts in it. I would rather put 6.5 in and have it register as high then put in something lower just to get it right on the dipstick. I don't trust the dipsticks on these things. On another post, someone commented on replacing their current dipstick with a new OEM dipstick that has a different part number. The new dipstick is shorter.

 

[MTN4RNR]

Make sure that when you check the oil you check when the engine has been sitting for a few hours at least, then check once and only once. Any checks after that and you'll read higher because the oil gets brought up into the dipstick tube when you pull out. Mine always registers higher when it's been running.

 

[J.F. Sebastian]

If my dealership does this on my first oil change I can guarantee that all hell is going to break loose in that place.

 

[SoCal326]

Ive done four changes now and Im not sure how anyone gets an accurate reading with these dipsticks and 0w-20. It seems I always end up with oil in several different spots all along the dipstick.

I have the same issue. I was blown away when I saw this guys stick that showed a clear indication of what the level was. Wounder what his trick is. Mines all blotchy and just can't tell where the line is.

 

[J.F. Sebastian]

I have the same issue. I was blown away when I saw this guys stick that showed a clear indication of what the level was. Wounder what his trick is. Mines all blotchy and just can't tell where the line is.

Checking cold before starting first thing in the morning is the only way to get a somewhat accurate reading on the stick...

 

[themaestro]

I have the same issue. I was blown away when I saw this guys stick that showed a clear indication of what the level was. Wounder what his trick is. Mines all blotchy and just can't tell where the line is.

I read a great tip on this forum: Take the dipstick out and let it sit for 5-10 min. Then insert and test the level. I get a nice clean line.

 

[TEujunga]

The only time oil over-fill would be an issue is if it is high enough to hit the crank shaft. Then it'll get frothed by the crank and could cause problems with pumping and oil pressure. It shouldn't cause issues otherwise. The crank case isn't pressurized. It's actually run at a slight vacuum. The problem is that we simply don't know how much more the oil pan can handle before becoming a problem. My guess is that 7 quarts - or even 10 quarts - would be just fine, but I really have no idea what the tolerance is.

I'm with you, Jetboy, but it seems the dark forces of voodoo, superstition, and OCD are swamping our pathetic attempts to convey reason and common sense.

Folks, a reading of a millimeter or two outside the dipstick markings doesn't mean your engine is going to blow its seals or suck oil through the intake or spontaneously combust. The amount of oil in the crankcase is simply not a Space-Shuttle critical measure. The dipstick markings are just a rough guide. The engine will work fine on any amount of oil between so little that the pickup sucks air, and so much that the crankshaft whips it into a froth -- and that's a very wide range indeed.

 

[J.F. Sebastian]

I'm with you, Jetboy, but it seems the dark forces of voodoo, superstition, and OCD are swamping our pathetic attempts to convey reason and common sense.

Folks, a reading of a millimeter or two outside the dipstick markings doesn't mean your engine is going to blow its seals or suck oil through the intake or spontaneously combust. The amount of oil in the crankcase is simply not a Space-Shuttle critical measure. The dipstick markings are just a rough guide. The engine will work fine on any amount of oil between so little that the pickup sucks air, and so much that the crankshafts whips it into a froth -- and that's a very wide range indeed.

Manufacturers specs resultant from years and years of R&D or advice from some guy on the internet..? Hmmm... /s Why does Toyota even put a dipstick in these engines anymore if you can just ballpark how much oil goes into the case?

 

[dmc1013]

...I just completed the first oil change at 5K...never had to do this new type of filter before but i got it done....removed oil was filthy and noticed some very fine copper dust in the oil filter housing? Sprayed it out with carb cleaner and moved on....

oh, checked the tire air pressure for the first time since the weather in NY has gotten colder...55PSI in all four tires???? Unreal...that cant be right? bled them down to factory setting.

 

[Off-choader]

Couple hours south at toyota atkinson, they did not replace the rubber oring and possibly the filter as well after waiting 2 hours. Leaked all night at the house spent another 2 hours for them to do it right. F*** 2 free oil changes Ill spend the money and do it myself the correct way