Toyota electronics are retarded.

itr1275

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No offense intended to any retards reading this.

I have a 2011 Limited and it has the touch screen for the controls, nav, and audio.

Is there any way to make it stay on the audio screen? I change it to the audio and it changes back to the nav or the mileage. Just stupid.

Also I noticed that if I dial the phone from the screen I can't change the volume without using the touch screen.

Any help out there?
 
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No offense intended to any retards reading this.

I have a 2011 Limited and it has the touch screen for the controls, nav, and audio.

Is there any way to make it stay on the audio screen? I change it to the audio and it changes back to the nav or the mileage. Just stupid.

Also I noticed that if I dial the phone from the screen I can't change the volume without using the touch screen.

Any help out there?
On my 2016 model there is a settings option called something like "auto return to home screen" that if unselected will let it stay on whatever screen you leave it. Don't know if your year is the same.

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No offense intended to any retards reading this.

I have a 2011 Limited and it has the touch screen for the controls, nav, and audio.

Is there any way to make it stay on the audio screen? I change it to the audio and it changes back to the nav or the mileage. Just stupid.

Also I noticed that if I dial the phone from the screen I can't change the volume without using the touch screen.

I have 2011 trail with touch screen nav. It stays on whatever screen it happens to be on until I change it to the next screen. So it's possible. Don't know the exact setting but it must be there.
 
I have 2011 trail with touch screen nav. It stays on whatever screen it happens to be on until I change it to the next screen. So it's possible. Don't know the exact setting but it must be there.

Hmm. Good info, I'm pretty sure that the Nav unit is the same.

Thanks, I will get my shovel and start digging.
 
Does this mean you don't think they're as retarded as you originally thought? :hiding:
 
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From the 2011 Toyota 4Runner Navigation System Owner's Manual ...

Section 8: Setup - General Settings (page 208)

“On” or “Off” can be selected for automatic screen change from the audio screen to the map. When “On” is selected, the screen will automatically return to the map from the audio screen after 20 seconds.
 
No offense intended to any retards reading this.

I have a 2011 Limited and it has the touch screen for the controls, nav, and audio.

Is there any way to make it stay on the audio screen? I change it to the audio and it changes back to the nav or the mileage. Just stupid.

Also I noticed that if I dial the phone from the screen I can't change the volume without using the touch screen.

Any help out there?
It's almost like you didn't bother to read me...
:rtfm:
 
Does this mean you don't think their as retarded as you originally thought? :hiding:

Nope still retarded. It's simply a user experience disaster. :rant:

Keep in mind that this is a 2011 and some of this is better in the newer models. But the new ones still have issues. I owned a 2006 (5 years older) G35 and the only real gripes I had with the electronics was the stupid joystick. Which actually worked better than the Toyota touch screen. And the silly orange digital read out from the 1970's.

Here are some of the 2011 4tr problems.

The entire use model of the touch screen is not intuitive, the graphics are chunky, and the resolution is very low and the touch screen response is slow. I'm constantly asking did that work?

The nav is ridiculous to program. You can't program it via voice while driving. Then it asks for the city first. I should just punch in the address and have it validate it after I'm done. The zoom buttons are difficult to use. My location is always placed at the bottom edge, and it should be in the middle. Canceling the navigation requires like 3 buttons. Cause that's a good idea while I'm driving. I should be able to do that through voice command as well. The location of the nav unit should be higher, closer to eye level. The aspect ratio is too wide, I'm not watching a movie.

The icons on the nav screen are almost meaningless, and take up too much real estate. I should just have zoom and some basic info like miles or ETA.

You can't change the volume of a phone call from the volume knob or the phone. You have to go through a few menus, another good idea while driving.

The voice command is generally useless.

The display doesn't show a folder tree when connected to my iPhone via BT. I should see the folders and touch them to navigate. Instead I need to punch a bunch of buttons and wait for the ever so slow touch screen to process my ever so complex request. If the phone is the center console the BT doesn't connect. Get a real antenna.

I can't see rds messages while driving, the mode button on the steering wheel doesn't switch between FM1 and FM2. Then again why do I need two radio "modes" when I should just have a list of all my stations in one list? That means all stations, AM, FM, & Sat. I know Audi does it this way as many others do too.

The center display on the instrument cluster has limited information and some of that is redundant with the high center display. And why do I care what the barometric pressure is? None the less it show's bars when we use Hg. Why not use Pa or or Torr then?

BTW what the hell is "ECO"? I'm still getting 16 MPG.

If you want the automatic headlights you must have the DRL on, unless you do the "pin #2" mode. I shouldn't be forced to use DRL if I want my headlight to automatically turn on.

No memory seats on the limited. Maybe they changed this on later models?

The trip computer.. what trip computer? I can get miles on my 1950's trip odometer.

The fuel consumption screen only goes back for 30 mins. Then the history goes back months. Not sure what that is about?

Why do I need a calendar option? I can't see RDS info from the radio while driving, but I can make calendar event for tea with the Queen?

Maybe I'm retarded?
 
outdated gripes

Nope still retarded. It's simply a user experience disaster. :rant:

Keep in mind that this is a 2011 and some of this is better in the newer models. But the new ones still have issues. I owned a 2006 (5 years older) G35 and the only real gripes I had with the electronics was the stupid joystick. Which actually worked better than the Toyota touch screen. And the silly orange digital read out from the 1970's.

Here are some of the 2011 4tr problems.

The entire use model of the touch screen is not intuitive, the graphics are chunky, and the resolution is very low and the touch screen response is slow. I'm constantly asking did that work?

The nav is ridiculous to program. You can't program it via voice while driving. Then it asks for the city first. I should just punch in the address and have it validate it after I'm done. The zoom buttons are difficult to use. My location is always placed at the bottom edge, and it should be in the middle. Canceling the navigation requires like 3 buttons. Cause that's a good idea while I'm driving. I should be able to do that through voice command as well. The location of the nav unit should be higher, closer to eye level. The aspect ratio is too wide, I'm not watching a movie.

The icons on the nav screen are almost meaningless, and take up too much real estate. I should just have zoom and some basic info like miles or ETA.

You can't change the volume of a phone call from the volume knob or the phone. You have to go through a few menus, another good idea while driving.

The voice command is generally useless.

The display doesn't show a folder tree when connected to my iPhone via BT. I should see the folders and touch them to navigate. Instead I need to punch a bunch of buttons and wait for the ever so slow touch screen to process my ever so complex request. If the phone is the center console the BT doesn't connect. Get a real antenna.

I can't see rds messages while driving, the mode button on the steering wheel doesn't switch between FM1 and FM2. Then again why do I need two radio "modes" when I should just have a list of all my stations in one list? That means all stations, AM, FM, & Sat. I know Audi does it this way as many others do too.

The center display on the instrument cluster has limited information and some of that is redundant with the high center display. And why do I care what the barometric pressure is? None the less it show's bars when we use Hg. Why not use Pa or or Torr then?

BTW what the hell is "ECO"? I'm still getting 16 MPG.

If you want the automatic headlights you must have the DRL on, unless you do the "pin #2" mode. I shouldn't be forced to use DRL if I want my headlight to automatically turn on.

No memory seats on the limited. Maybe they changed this on later models?

The trip computer.. what trip computer? I can get miles on my 1950's trip odometer.

The fuel consumption screen only goes back for 30 mins. Then the history goes back months. Not sure what that is about?

Why do I need a calendar option? I can't see RDS info from the radio while driving, but I can make calendar event for tea with the Queen?

Maybe I'm retarded?

I have a 2016 Ltd. It has memory seats. All saved radio stations are listed in one big list. Voice control works pretty well. And phone volume adjustment is pain free.
With AWD and a roof rack, I still avg over 17 mpg.
After owning a 16 Tacoma, I do dislike the center screen on the T4R. It is outdated compared to the truck.
 

I did and it says:
"Eco Driving Indicator Light
During Eco-friendly acceleration (Eco driving), Eco Driving Indicator Light will turn on.

Eco Driving Indicator Zone Display
Suggests Zone of Eco driving with current Eco driving ratio based on acceleration.

Zone of Eco driving
Eco driving ratio based on acceleration In case over-use of the accelerator causes the vehicle to exceed Zone of Eco driving, the right of Eco Driving Indicator Zone Display will blink and Eco Driving Indicator Light will turn off."​

The light does nothing except tell me I don't have my foot buried. I should be looking at the road and not my Eco light/meter.

It's a marketing feel good light light - Useless.
 
I have a 2016 Ltd. It has memory seats. All saved radio stations are listed in one big list. Voice control works pretty well. And phone volume adjustment is pain free.
With AWD and a roof rack, I still avg over 17 mpg.
After owning a 16 Tacoma, I do dislike the center screen on the T4R. It is outdated compared to the truck.

OK Slightly less retarded now...

To be fair the MPG is probably bay area traffic. The T4R is a comfy place to sit and wait. . .
 
I did and it says:
"Eco Driving Indicator Light
During Eco-friendly acceleration (Eco driving), Eco Driving Indicator Light will turn on.

Eco Driving Indicator Zone Display
Suggests Zone of Eco driving with current Eco driving ratio based on acceleration.

Zone of Eco driving
Eco driving ratio based on acceleration In case over-use of the accelerator causes the vehicle to exceed Zone of Eco driving, the right of Eco Driving Indicator Zone Display will blink and Eco Driving Indicator Light will turn off."​

The light does nothing except tell me I don't have my foot buried. I should be looking at the road and not my Eco light/meter.

It's a marketing feel good light light - Useless.
 
This is true...you can turn it off on the 2011 as well. Those instructions are also in the manual.....

Yeah but it doesn't bug me that it's there, just that wasted their time designing it and getting it past all the automotive standards.


We had that feature in older cars too. It's called a vacuum gauge.
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2011 Toyota 4Runner Owner's Manual

Section 2.2 Instrument Cluster - Gauges and Meters

Eco Driving Indicator Light customization (page 187)

Eco Driving Indicator Light can be activated or deactivated by pressing and holding the display change button.
 
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Pretty sure there's a Trip Computer that does Trip A & Trip B since you need Trip A to reset the MAINT light...

Not to be an ass, but honestly you don't sound like you've read your owner's manual. Not everything on cars is intuitive to everyone. I haven't been in a car to this day that's 100% intuitive or that has a good infotainment screen unit, they all have their issues.
 

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