Toyota just updated their website (2021 4Runners)

Oh okay. It is MI, OH, TN, and KY. Some doc fees could be negotiable, but keep in mind these fees are there to pay the people doing the work behind the curtain. As for discounts, I won't be of any help because I'm a Toyota Supplier, so my pricing is set at $500 less than invoice, plus any other Toyota incentives.
Thank you. Do you have any recommended dealerships in OH or MI?
 
Thank you. Do you have any recommended dealerships in OH or MI?

I used Jim White in Toledo - not really any complaints with their sales team. In NW Ohio, there is Jim White, Kasper (Sandusky), Yark, and Thayer. In Michigan, Wolverine Toyota in Dundee seemed easy to work with as well. I almost bought a used Cement Pro from them.

When I lived in Pittsburgh, it seemed everyone was going to Boardman, OH to buy cars.
 
Any recommended dealers around southeast VA (Hampton Roads)?

Any word on when the 2021s will hit the dealer lots?
 
The Lunar Rock is a 500ft foul ball with the bases loaded. If they had tweaked that color just a hair more towards gray or green or blue...grand slam.


Yeah the TRD Pro price premium for that Lunar Rock is absolutely insane. That's not going to make them resell high like blue/cement/quickand/green.

I'm waiting for a trail edition, that cement color is great. I wonder if they'll budge off msrp...

The Lunar Rock is the same price as any other TRD Pro, isn't it? I'm surprised by the early negative reaction to Lunar Rock alongside the seemingly universal love for Cement. They seem so similar that one would either generally like both of them or dislike both of them. I like them both, but actually prefer Lunar Rock.
 
The Lunar Rock is the same price as any other TRD Pro, isn't it? I'm surprised by the early negative reaction to Lunar Rock alongside the seemingly universal love for Cement. They seem so similar that one would either generally like both of them or dislike both of them. I like them both, but actually prefer Lunar Rock.

I really like both as well, but had to go Magnetic Gray for my new Venture since Cement and Lunar Rock aren't options on it.

Downgrading to a Trail (with cloth seats) wasn't an option...and paying way over MSRP for a Pro - yeah - not happening either.
 
What is the timeframe for 2021 factory order? I was given a timeframe 6-8 weeks by a dealership in NC, and 2-3 months by a dealership in PA.
I'm trying to find ORP with KDSS and sliding cargo deck- but nothing on the lot.
That's the build I'm looking for in S Calif. But from the Toyota website it's impossible to build a '21 ORP with both KDSS and Sliding Rear Cargo Deck. I tried another region (Phoenix) and still won't build. Not sure if this is a website bug or decision from Toyota. Will need to visit a dealer to find out more.
 
The Lunar Rock is the same price as any other TRD Pro, isn't it? I'm surprised by the early negative reaction to Lunar Rock alongside the seemingly universal love for Cement. They seem so similar that one would either generally like both of them or dislike both of them. I like them both, but actually prefer Lunar Rock.

I think part of the problem for some is that it looks similar to cement, like you mention. To me, it looks like a less good re-tread. Like if they came out with "Forest Green" next year that's just a slightly different shade than AG. It's just not exciting (to me).

But I wouldn't buy a Pro anyway, so who cares what I think?
 
That's the build I'm looking for in S Calif. But from the Toyota website it's impossible to build a '21 ORP with both KDSS and Sliding Rear Cargo Deck. I tried another region (Phoenix) and still won't build. Not sure if this is a website bug or decision from Toyota. Will need to visit a dealer to find out more.


It also seems impossible to combine sunroof with KDSS. Seems like it might be a bug?


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I used Jim White in Toledo - not really any complaints with their sales team. In NW Ohio, there is Jim White, Kasper (Sandusky), Yark, and Thayer. In Michigan, Wolverine Toyota in Dundee seemed easy to work with as well. I almost bought a used Cement Pro from them.

When I lived in Pittsburgh, it seemed everyone was going to Boardman, OH to buy cars.

Thank you. I will check them out.
 
It also seems impossible to combine sunroof with KDSS. Seems like it might be a bug?


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It may be a bug or it is based on options available for different regions.
Try zip 27616 .

Does anyone know if standard tires on ORP premium are the same regardless of location?
 
Does anyone know if standard tires on ORP premium are the same regardless of location?

All of the TRD ORP models I've seen were factory equipped with Dunlop Grandtrek AT20's, or Bridegstone Dueler H/T 684 II's.

Of course distributors like GST or SET have their little option packages which may include swapping out the OEM tires. Then other Dealers will also often equip their 4Runner's with various aftermarket parts, at substantial mark-up.
 
Select the package (6/7) called KDSS with Options, it includes the sunroof.


Seems like it was a region specific issue (not available using my zip code in the northeast). Anyone know the rationale behind why Toyota does this?


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I'm starting to see allocations pop up for 2021's at dealers but none at all for the TRD Pro or Trail editions. Wonder if they aren't arriving in september?
 
I haven't paid a whole lot of attention since I got mine, but if you look through the details, the Pro is the only one with the locking rear diff now but the Pro doesn't get DAC or ATRAC.
 
I haven't paid a whole lot of attention since I got mine, but if you look through the details, the Pro is the only one with the locking rear diff now but the Pro doesn't get DAC or ATRAC.

Out of curiosity I checked the TRD ORP. It still lists the locking rear diff as standard.
 
I haven't paid a whole lot of attention since I got mine, but if you look through the details, the Pro is the only one with the locking rear diff now but the Pro doesn't get DAC or ATRAC.

TRD Off Road Premium (not *just the* pro) and Nightshade gets the locking diff... Toyota's website is all messed up. While vehicles that get crawl control don't get DAC, they all get ATRAC (if 4x4).
 
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