Flesh Eater
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Before I fully put this to the test I’ll have it on those boulders in the yard to see the tipping point. They’re bigger than anything I’ll hit out there.
Toyota Suspension Gurus: Help, Please...
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Before I fully put this to the test I’ll have it on those boulders in the yard to see the tipping point. They’re bigger than anything I’ll hit out there.
UrbanRunner651
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TBH your pics don't look that crazy. CV angles are fine. You likely just got some extra lift up front from eliminating some of the rake. The images look almost identical to my Dobinsons IMS (2.5/1.5) setup. Without aftermarket UCAs you won't get any better castor numbers. what weight springs did you go with? that can make a big difference in ride quality..
montijo505
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Why align, lower, align? Just lower it and get one alignment. Seems to me like you’re just overthinking it and stressing yourself out unnecessarily. Not being rude, but do you see the logic? Maybe try a different alignment shop also, should have gotten more caster than you did with the lift.
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Flesh Eater
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Camburg had their X joint arms ready to ship so I ordered them.
This Toyota drove amazingly well before so I’d like to get back to that.
Got an alignment scheduled next Thursday, so hopefully they come in by Wednesday.
This Toyota drove amazingly well before so I’d like to get back to that.
Got an alignment scheduled next Thursday, so hopefully they come in by Wednesday.
Flesh Eater
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The Camburgs definitely tightened up the steering. Should drive awesome after an alignment.
Flesh Eater
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This flexes nicely.
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So what’s your opinion of the lift after all? Did the UCA’s and alignment help?
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Flesh Eater
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The UCA’s make it feel like stock again. They put camber back to 2.9 and 3.1 degrees. The alignment also helped.
Once the tread squirm stops this will be a nice ride. The tread squirm is awful at highway speeds.
glad you got it sorted. I understand the pressure of making sure you have a solid rig prior to a long trip, but I think it definitely made you overthink and overstress about a lot of this.
I'm on Icon front and rear setup running right at 3" of lift and these perform significantly better than the Bilstein 5100's I had prior.
I'm assuming you were on the high spring rate spring in the front ? With the amount of pre-load you had pictured there is absolutely no way you were near 5 inches of lift so not sure what was going on there. Granted I have a steel bumper with a winch, but my total lift was just shy of 3 inches with the stock pre-load from ICON. I also have the high caster JBA UCA's and have 0 complaints about the ride quality on and off road.
Also, I can tell you that if you were truly anything over 3" of lift you would have popped both of your CV joint boots 3 miles into your first drive. Ask me how I know
(long story short I set the bilstein shock to the absolute highest spring perch but was using OME heavy springs and should only have been on the first perch, netting me a total of damn near 5 inches of lift and some mean Carolina squat)
Good luck and be safe on your trip, sounds like a helluva good time!
I'm on Icon front and rear setup running right at 3" of lift and these perform significantly better than the Bilstein 5100's I had prior.
I'm assuming you were on the high spring rate spring in the front ? With the amount of pre-load you had pictured there is absolutely no way you were near 5 inches of lift so not sure what was going on there. Granted I have a steel bumper with a winch, but my total lift was just shy of 3 inches with the stock pre-load from ICON. I also have the high caster JBA UCA's and have 0 complaints about the ride quality on and off road.
Also, I can tell you that if you were truly anything over 3" of lift you would have popped both of your CV joint boots 3 miles into your first drive. Ask me how I know
(long story short I set the bilstein shock to the absolute highest spring perch but was using OME heavy springs and should only have been on the first perch, netting me a total of damn near 5 inches of lift and some mean Carolina squat) Good luck and be safe on your trip, sounds like a helluva good time!
Flesh Eater
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glad you got it sorted. I understand the pressure of making sure you have a solid rig prior to a long trip, but I think it definitely made you overthink and overstress about a lot of this.
I'm on Icon front and rear setup running right at 3" of lift and these perform significantly better than the Bilstein 5100's I had prior.
I'm assuming you were on the high spring rate spring in the front ? With the amount of pre-load you had pictured there is absolutely no way you were near 5 inches of lift so not sure what was going on there. Granted I have a steel bumper with a winch, but my total lift was just shy of 3 inches with the stock pre-load from ICON. I also have the high caster JBA UCA's and have 0 complaints about the ride quality on and off road.
Also, I can tell you that if you were truly anything over 3" of lift you would have popped both of your CV joint boots 3 miles into your first drive. Ask me how I know
Good luck and be safe on your trip, sounds like a helluva good time!
I actually didn’t adjust the coilovers at all. My front is sitting right at 22.5” right now. I’m guessing it needs to settle. This thing almost never gets driven. Maybe once a week just to keep it moving. Sometimes once every two to three.
I definitely over thought a lot, but I’m a perfectionist and really like everything 100% WELL in advance to a trip. This felt like an episode of Roadkill or Roadkill Garage with everything giving me a headache.
Flesh Eater
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I kept finding 19” in my searching. 19.5” to 20” would be better and make me feel more confident in the height.
Toyota actually includes the measurement range somewhere in the FSM. IIRC, it's not located where one might expect...the suspension R&R section, but some other section. I found it once, when I was doing the shock/strut R&R myself, but that was several years ago. If I get a moment, I'll try to find it again.
