Transmissions: Jasper vs. OEM Reman

[Greyhome]

Hey guys,

I got back from a snowboarding trip this week and my A/T started losing 4th gear. Brought it into a transmission shop and they say it's internal, due for a replacement at 212k miles.

I've got an '01 LTD, 4wd. They said a Jasper Reman Transmission is the same cost as Toyota Reman.. to the tune of $3900 installed.

I looked up Toyota online pricing for reman Transmission and it looked like it was about $2300 for just the tranny.

Difference between them is the Yota reman only has a 12 month/12,000 mile warranty. The Jasper has a 3 year/100,000 warranty.

The truck is my daily, and I don't have a garage else I'd work to figure this out DIY. Do any of y'all have experience w/ Jasper transmissions, if so, good or bad? I know the warranty really is the kicker between the two of these, but I still trust a Yota reman in my gut more. (Unfounded? Sure.) From my research, $3900 seems like a high bill for a swap no matter what, but w/o getting a used tranny from a scrapyard I'm not sure how I'd drop that cost lower.

Would appreciate any thoughts or experience. Chances are I'm keeping the car. Already in too deep financially to justify getting less than 3k trying to sell w/ a failing tranny.

- Graham

 

[APhelps]

Do yourself a favor and get the Toyota reman. 3 years / 100k miles is a pretty stupid warranty anyways, either the transmission is going to fail right away due to something or it'll last a long time. Toyota is certainly going to use the same standard parts they used when first building them.

 

[T4R2014]

OEM is better than any warranty. Aftermarket 3 year is how they keep making money on shop labor rates if you supply the part. Total con.

 

[gamefreakgc]

Will they install a used unit? You can pick up a used A340E/F for $500 or less. 100% authentic OEM parts used, guaranteed!

 

[nc-grayson]

OEM reman gets my vote

 

[JayRolla]

My buddy bought a 4.7L stroker motor from jasper for his jeep. It spun a rod bearing at 500 miles. He had the warranty also. Jasper warranty only covered parts. He had to pay shipping both ways and the labor to rebuild the motor.

OEM gets my vote.

 

[kolelt]

Do yourself a favor and get the Toyota reman. 3 years / 100k miles is a pretty stupid warranty anyways, either the transmission is going to fail right away due to something or it'll last a long time. Toyota is certainly going to use the same standard parts they used when first building them.

Have you seen Martin crawlers warranty ? One year unlimited mile. That’s. It.

 

[JWaldz]

Have you seen Martin crawlers warranty ? One year unlimited mile. That’s. It.

Marlin Crawler only rebuilds and sells manual transmissions. OP has an Auto.

I also vote OEM.

 

[APhelps]

Have you seen Martin crawlers warranty ? One year unlimited mile. That’s. It.

Well that's better than Toyota's! A quality product is either going to fail due to defects or last a very long time. I don't typically see too many products as an engineer that fail after a few years. Either its junk out of the box or its good.

 

[kolelt]

Well that's better than Toyota's! A quality product is either going to fail due to defects or last a very long time. I don't typically see too many products as an engineer that fail after a few years. Either its junk out of the box or its good.

1 year isn’t a strong warranty in my opinion.

 

[Hopeless Diamond]

A quality product doesn't need a long warranty. I put a Mishimoto radiator in my F350. It has a lifetime warranty. I now have the 3rd one leaking. I have to go through the warranty process and pay $100 for shipping each time. Oh yeah, I still have to change it - 2 cooling systems, over 16 gallons of coolant between the 2 systems. Needless to say, not the simple job like these vehicles.

Warranties don't mean crap if the underlying part isn't good.

 

[mtbtim]

Go OEM and see if you can find somebody local to help you that has the space for the swap. Maybe put out a feeler on this forum for guys in your area that are willing to help. You might be surprised how many guys will step up to help you out.

Here's Video #1 of a 3 Part Series [MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] (aka Sean) and I made swapping out Sean's auto trans.

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[gamefreakgc]

Go OEM and see if you can find somebody local to help you that has the space for the swap. Maybe put out a feeler on this forum for guys in your area that are willing to help. You might be surprised how many guys will step up to help you out.

Here's Video #1 of a 3 Part Series [MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] (aka Sean) and I made swapping out Sean's auto trans.

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That's actually a pretty good idea. If you can pick up a used transmission for say, $500, trans jack for $150, and pay someone for their time, like around $300 bucks, you'd still only be out $950. Waaaaay better than $3900 and there's guys on here I'd trust more than your average mechanic.

I mean, your whole 4Runner probably isn't worth a whole lot more than $3900.

 

[aontkos]

I’m two years into a Jasper remanufactured transmission. It was a heavy hit when the replacement happened, but so far it’s been worth it. I’ve had no issues at all. I’ll pay extra for a better warranty, especially one that’s nationwide. I didn’t go the used route because I had a two month trip planned so a warranty was important to me.

Who’s to say that the “OEM” remanufacturing facility is better than Jasper’s?

 

[Greyhome]

Thanks for the replies, everyone. I am thinking I will go OEM reman. I feel that if I’m going to spend the money, I’d rather start from a blank slate than a used tranny. For me it’s a level of security to go OEM, since the first tranny lasted 212K. I know some other 3rd gen years have gone further, but no matter which way you put it, that’s a long lifespan for a transmission.

I’ve been inspired and encouraged by guys like [MENTION=120071]mtbtim[/MENTION] who help us all do diy work on our rigs. Living in the city and not having a garage or driveway has made that tough, but I’ve been able to get some work done in family or friends garages out of town. If I had another daily I would pursue the diy option, but ultimately I need to have this car back on the road soon. Let me know if y’all have any other thoughts - I’m going to continue doing research and make a decision come Monday.

 

[LittleCaesar]

Another vote for the Toyo rebuilt one. Have you considered procuring another sub $5000 beater until you would have the time and space to DIY?

 

[T4R2014]

All I can say is use a robust fluid after a good break-in with OEM fluid. After that Redline D4 or Amsoil. These 01-02 autos command a premium because they fail "early".

 

[tx_shooter]

Thanks for the replies, everyone. I am thinking I will go OEM reman. I feel that if I’m going to spend the money, I’d rather start from a blank slate than a used tranny. For me it’s a level of security to go OEM, since the first tranny lasted 212K. I know some other 3rd gen years have gone further, but no matter which way you put it, that’s a long lifespan for a transmission.

I’ve been inspired and encouraged by guys like [MENTION=120071]mtbtim[/MENTION] who help us all do diy work on our rigs. Living in the city and not having a garage or driveway has made that tough, but I’ve been able to get some work done in family or friends garages out of town. If I had another daily I would pursue the diy option, but ultimately I need to have this car back on the road soon. Let me know if y’all have any other thoughts - I’m going to continue doing research and make a decision come Monday.

I had this exact problem in November last year. I needed a new transmission and I was weeks away from a week trip to Big Bend Ranch. My biggest issue was that I have a supercharger. Jasper will not warranty a supercharged motor (at least for the 3rd gen 4Runners). Toyota of Ft Worth warrantied it without an issue.

So I went OEM Toyota and am glad I did. It runs great, runs cooler than before, and my mileage went back up. I just wish I had been in a better position financially before doing it. The total swap cost me right under $4,000.

My original transmission made it to 300k miles before not shifting into 2nd gear. The previous owner liked to street race it on 33s; so it endured a lot of abuse before I got it.

 

[Greyhome]

I had this exact problem in November last year. I needed a new transmission and I was weeks away from a week trip to Big Bend Ranch. My biggest issue was that I have a supercharger. Jasper will not warranty a supercharged motor (at least for the 3rd gen 4Runners). Toyota of Ft Worth warrantied it without an issue.

So I went OEM Toyota and am glad I did. It runs great, runs cooler than before, and my mileage went back up. I just wish I had been in a better position financially before doing it. The total swap cost me right under $4,000.

My original transmission made it to 300k miles before not shifting into 2nd gear. The previous owner liked to street race it on 33s; so it endured a lot of abuse before I got it.

Glad to hear that you've had such success with yours since the replacement! Going to baby the heck out of this one. Shop started work today. Should have it back by Friday. Any tips on breaking the new one in?

 

[tx_shooter]

Glad to hear that you've had such success with yours since the replacement! Going to baby the heck out of this one. Shop started work today. Should have it back by Friday. Any tips on breaking the new one in?

Watch the heat cycles while driving in town for the first 100 miles or so. I tried to keep the RPMs under 3000 for the first 500 miles and after that I flogged it like it had a really good warranty. I also recommend getting a transmission cooler too.

And because Toyota installed the transmission it does have a really good warranty. Toyota of Ft Worth did a heck of a job above and beyond the install.