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Pretty decent stuff (esp. ATRAC + rear locker synch)...but nothing mind-blowing unfortunately. I wish that Toyota would add:

1. 4:1 transfer case...to better compete with H3 and Rubicon
2. KDSS (from Lexus GX470) to better compete with Rubicon's front disconnect suspension
3. and the rest that is on in the TRD package.

I would bet that more than a few people would pay a little more for the above options...I WOULD!!:) In fact, my brother (who has Rubi) maybe in the market soon...and i know that he would definitely buy it if the above options are available.

With the Wrangler Rubicon coming out the next month or so, i think that this is a conservative (a bit weak) move by Toyota.

My opinion.
 
The nice thing is that the FJ will outpower both the Rubicon and the H3. I have driven the new Jeep (4 doors both automatic and stick) one with 18" wheels the other with the 17s and I am not impressed by the power whatsoever. The fact that Jeep would waste using yet another different V6 instead of using what works is dumb. The low end power is not there with this new V6 and its a complete dog in my opinion. Bring back the inline 4.0 or use the new V6 4.0!!!
 
nh00gts said:
The nice thing is that the FJ will outpower both the Rubicon and the H3.

The low end power is not there with this new V6 and its a complete dog in my opinion. Bring back the inline 4.0 or use the new V6 4.0!!!

Well, in off-roading, with the transfer case in 4-LO, both the Rubicon and H3 will out-torque the FJ easily, esp. at low RPMs.

But, i do agree with you...i wish that Jeep could have found some way to modernized the old inline 6. But, i think that the engine was at the end of it's life. Problem with the 4.0 was that it was terribly inefficient (piss poor fuel economy), bad on environment (relatively bad emissions), and terrible on the highway. Thus, Jeep had to do something. And the closest thing to it is the 3.8L V6 in the minivans. I would not worry too much...a diesel is on it's way in a 2-3 years.
 
Also Toyota has the quality and that's still a big selling point compared to the H3 and the Jeep and Toyota knows this. Toyota will sell 46,000 FJs this year and they still haven't met the demand.
If Toyota was struggling with the FJ they might go even further with it to make it sell but unfortunatly Toyota won't go the extra mile to sell the FJ cause they don't have to.
It's kinda like Toyota not having to offer the off-road extras in the 4Runner since 4Runners sell themselves.
 
Thai said:
Well, in off-roading, with the transfer case in 4-LO, both the Rubicon and H3 will out-torque the FJ easily, esp. at low RPMs.

But, i do agree with you...i wish that Jeep could have found some way to modernized the old inline 6. But, i think that the engine was at the end of it's life. Problem with the 4.0 was that it was terribly inefficient (piss poor fuel economy), bad on environment (relatively bad emissions), and terrible on the highway. Thus, Jeep had to do something. And the closest thing to it is the 3.8L V6 in the minivans. I would not worry too much...a diesel is on it's way in a 2-3 years.

Yeah I just read that a 2.8L diesel was shown in the Unlimited at the Paris auto show. I just think Jeep needs to take an engine and stick with it. Why put a Caravan engine in the Wrangler instead of the 3.7L you have already used in the Liberty, Grand Cherokee, Commander, Dakota, Ram, Nitro.... Plus your adding another V6 to the lineup in the Nitro. I know V6 wont but out the torque an inline will but come on people get smart with your engine usage!!
 
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You're right. I think that the minivan 3.8L V6 engine provides more low-end torque than Liberty's engine.
 

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