Trd sport suspension
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Whippersnapper02
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Took me a bit but XREAS. Eh I think it's fine if you don't want to change suspension. If you do then you have to ditch the whole system.
I am not unhappy with the setup,would have preferred kdss ,but this was available and was already stretched budget wise anyways and didn't need a diff lock and crawl control etc of the offroad.
Just hear the premature failure stories and wonder how common that actually is?
honda250xtitan
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just run it and enjoy it. when/if it fails, replacie with dobinsons/bilstein/eibach. Seems to be a nice setup for daily driving
2021nightshade4x4
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Xray arse is way better
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Grug556
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Only if you dont swap them out at some point for real shocks or coilovers. I dunno, I found my XREAS was nice on the highway but absolute shit on mild slightly uneven roads or even those tar strips. Very brittle ride with stock tires. I was very happy when I took bolt cutters to them and sent them to hell!
Sounds like you were running overinflated tires?
Grug556
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No, its how the suspension is on anything other than very smooth pavement
Toffees
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all the limiteds (including TRD sport) come with XREAS, and it was equipped on some 4th gen as well, so the issues are pretty well documented, see the links above.
it's covered by warranty unless it's not. many owners get a full replacement if it fails early, but that often depends on the dealer.
it's great for on-road driving, and most replace it with a standard set of some other suspension. my XREAS have now worn out around 130k, so if you learn anything worth sharing let me know before i get them replaced.
Toffees
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what were your stock wheels/tires? mine was very rough riding on 20s with the yoko HTs that came stock, and is very nice with 17s and ATs, without swapping out the XREAS.
Grug556
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Mine were stock 20s with I think Yoks on them. Its not a tire issue as they sidewalls arent super stiff.
I have removed the 20s a few weeks after getting it on one of my Limiteds. Now I only run the following on one limited, the other limited stays stock with 20s and XREAS still so comparisons are easy.
MT Cooper ST Pros 265-70-17 8 inch wheel 40psi-42psi C rated
AT BFG K02 265-70-17 8.5 inch wheel 40 psi E rated
Snows Blizzak DMV2 265-70-17 P rated 32psi
XREAs is an interesting system but like most all in one systems its generally ok on most stuff but never really shines on anything either. I ripped it out and went with Kings, which have been far smoother in comparison, even when valves are set on stiff.
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I only have around 3K miles on the vehicle,but coming from a highlander ride is quite good considering the solid rear axle.
There is less brake dive than expected. I test drove a new limited 4yrs ago and it had a lot of brake dive.Around the same.time I also test drove a trd offroad with kdss and that dive was not as apparent,interestingly thre sport feels closer to the offroad from memory but that could be just a bad memory.
Does the trd sport have different suspension tuning to the limited?
I could more.imagine a tendency to buck over large undulations with such a system rather then not handling small imperfections
Humble Leader
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I got 152k miles out of my factory XREAS until one shock started weeping. that's 152k miles, not km, so about 240,000km. not bad but I also don't think many people that have XREAS are as lucky as me. I replaced all 4 corners once and next time they fail I don't know if I'd replace them again. my rig is already 10 years old so maybe I'd go with a dobinsons or bilstein or something "simple". those hard lines and actuators won't last forever. I don't mind the ride with them but I also don't have 20" rims, I have 17s with a 265 M+S tire
Grug556
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no its the opposite...worse over small stuff
Mud terrains are not going to give a good ride,or handling and road noise will be high,plus terrible mpg.
The xreas system I doubt would be conducive to running aggressive tires.
Toffees
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my understanding is that the Sport and LE are the same except the LE 4x4 has the AWD/torsen center diff and the Sport has the regular 4wd version. i doubt this makes a handling difference in normal situations, but might be wrong. both have XREAS and the same wheels, so i suspect there is little real difference between the two.
Most likely as there has been no mention of suspension tuning differences,unless there has been some improvement across the trims in the last 4 years.
It would be interesting to hear from someone who has driven the different trims recently.
Most of those idiots on youtube are clueless.
I was surprised how firm the trd sport felt with the xreas
The fulltime 4wd on limited should improve the handling more than xreas,that is a significant advantage.
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