Tundra brake upgrade questions

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NathanOfSeattle

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After replacing my rotors last year to eliminate brake pulsation, the problem is back again. This time, I've decided to simply do the "Tundra brake upgrade" which hopefully should eliminate this problem once and for all. My questions are:

1. Should I go with the 199mm or 231mm calibers? I'd like get the larger one if I know I won't have any interference with the brake shield of wheel. My 2000 4Runner is running the stock 16inch 5 spoke wheels.

2. What year Tundra parts would I get?

3. I'm going into my local NAPA to get the parts. To make things go faster, would anyone know the part numbers to get?

Thanks guys, I appreciate your help. And I look forward to getting this upgrade done!
 

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You should get the 231 mm calipers as they will fit your rims fine. I dont know the part number, but the calipers will have 13wl stamped on them.
 
NathanOfSeattle said:
1. Should I go with the 199mm or 231mm calibers? I'd like get the larger one if I know I won't have any interference with the brake shield of wheel. My 2000 4Runner is running the stock 16inch 5 spoke wheels.
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Hey, if you're gonna spend the money, might as well pitch in the extra bucks and go for the 231. Worth it, IMO. You won't have any problem fitting in those wheels, but you will have to trim the brake dust shield on the back side of the rotor regardless.

NathanOfSeattle said:
2. What year Tundra parts would I get?
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Suggest 2001 for 199mm. The Tundra and Sequoias all changed to the 231mm in 2003 due to a Technical Service Bulletin... basically, the 199's are the brakes that were weeded out due to lacking performance on these large vehicles. If you want 231's, best to take out the risk factor and just say you're trying to get brakes for a 2006. I ordered mine for a 2006 Tundra Doublecab.

NathanOfSeattle said:
3. I'm going into my local NAPA to get the parts. To make things go faster, would anyone know the part numbers to get?
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Sorry, don't know, but I am sure they have everything sorted out for you. Just tell them you want calipers, pads, and rotors for a 2006 Tundra. You will get the 231s.
 
Thanks you guys! So it looks like the 2006 Tundra 231mm caliber and brake parts are the ones to get.

What exactly do I do with the brake shield? Sorry I don't know what it means to trim the brake shield.
 
NathanOfSeattle said:
Thanks you guys! So it looks like the 2006 Tundra 231mm caliber and brake parts are the ones to get.

What exactly do I do with the brake shield? Sorry I don't know what it means to trim the brake shield.
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You have to remove about 1inch of metal off the shield. took a couple minutes with a dremel cut off wheel. its really thin metal so you can use tin snips or something of the short. really easy to do. i did the 231's and they are awesome
 
twitchee2 said:
You have to remove about 1inch of metal off the shield. took a couple minutes with a dremel cut off wheel. its really thin metal so you can use tin snips or something of the short. really easy to do. i did the 231's and they are awesome
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1. I don't have a dremel, but for the tin snips, do you mean something like this? 12" Power Snips

2. Do I need to remove the brake dust shield to do this?

3. Where exactly do I cut?
 
You don't have to remove the dust shield, and a pair of tin snips (looks like a small hedge cutter or scissors) will definitely get the job done easy and simple.

I used a pair of tin snips to cut back the dust shield, and held the 231mm brake caliper up against it to see what I needed to cut away. It's relatively easy to do as you can just align the new brakes to the mounting holes and see exactly what needs to be cut. The hardest part really is getting the old ones off and the bleeding the brake fluid.

Good luck! This is a well worth upgrade!
 
NathanOfSeattle said:
Thank you! And what a great set of write ups. Looks like I don't even need to cut but should file down using a 10" flat basterd file as necessary to obtain a perfect fit.
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I had to cut off about an inch or so. You'll know how much to cut once you try to mount the caliper. Best to just "wing it".
 
Ok I will just "wing it"!

For the brake bleeding (i need to do a full brake bleed anyway), did you guys find it easier with the Motive Brake Bleeder kit or just by pumping the brakes?
 
NathanOfSeattle said:
Ok I will just "wing it"!

For the brake bleeding (i need to do a full brake bleed anyway), did you guys find it easier with the Motive Brake Bleeder kit or just by pumping the brakes?
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I find the easiest thing is to get speed bleeders and just pump the brakes. I don't want to spend $60 on the motive kit AND have to store yet another tool in my apartment.
 
Could you rent the Speed Bleeders from an auto shop? I really don't have the room or the money to buy another tool I'll only need once(hopefully).

What kind of prices were you guys looking at by going with the 231mm? I found a set of 199mm calipers($50 each) and two rotors ($75 each) from a wrecked 2001 Tundra.
 
MAD 69 said:
Could you rent the Speed Bleeders from an auto shop? I really don't have the room or the money to buy another tool I'll only need once(hopefully).

What kind of prices were you guys looking at by going with the 231mm? I found a set of 199mm calipers($50 each) and two rotors ($75 each) from a wrecked 2001 Tundra.
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Speed bleeders are bleeder valve replacements, you don't rent them. They are about $7 each.

BTW, those prices don't sound very good. I think you could get re-man's for close to that price.
 
Oh yeah I meant the bleeding kit/ machine that you can bleed the lines by yourself, i'll buy the bleeder caps, I didn't realize they were that cheap.

$250 for the 199mm is the cheapest I have found, there doesn't seem to be that many around since the recall to the 231mm. I have the older 3rd Gen ''16 Rim, so it's not possible for me to go with the 231mm, I don't want get involved with any grinding/cutting whatsoever.
I probably should just get new rotors -$75 each should buy me decent ones.
 
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NathanOfSeattle said:
One more question guys, why the 2006 Tundra brake parts as opposed to other years?
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in 1999, when the Tundra came out, it had 199 millimeter brakes. They did not prove sufficient.

In 2003, all Tundras were changed to 231mm brakes for better performance.

I say 2006 because there's no chance of accidentally receiving the wrong brakes, it's a surefire year that will guaranteed get you the 231's that you want.
 
ChildrenOfBodom said:
in 1999, when the Tundra came out, it had 199 millimeter brakes. They did not prove sufficient.

In 2003, all Tundras were changed to 231mm brakes for better performance.

I say 2006 because there's no chance of accidentally receiving the wrong brakes, it's a surefire year that will guaranteed get you the 231's that you want.
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Plus searching for 06's means you get lower mileage components if going the salvage route.
 
Just did the 231's this weekend on my 99. Knew I needed rear shoes also, so I went ahead and replaced them with new drums also. It's a noticeable difference in performance. Just the pedal travels a little more. From what I've read this is kinda hit or miss. Kinda like the M/C is self correcting after a while. It's been bled correctly and the shoes are adjusted up to slight drag. I think the M/C, that is 12 or so years old, must be used to the original travel of the plunger and cups. After a few days it will probably seat itself in to the new setup. That"s what I'm hoping anyways.
 
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