Tundra brake upgrade

I have been studying this mod I would really like to do it especially since 2 years from now my 4Runner is going to go to my son when he gets his license.
My thought was to get new TRD calipers and buy everything else from
NAPA.
I went to my local dealer with the part number of calipers they only wanted to sell me a Tundra brake upgrade kid that was $3,100 and would require me to switch to 20 inch wheels. I was pretty disappointed, seemed like they were getting greedy. I don't mind spending $400- $500 on this mod but it's a vehicle I bought for $2,000 I'm not spending $3,000 on brakes then having to buy 20" wheels and tires

I guess when I get ready to do this I'll buy calipers online since my dealer can't be trusted or won't listen
 
I don't jknow what the dealer is trying to sell you. just read the installs and do it cheap, like in your price range
 
3bears said:
I don't jknow what the dealer is trying to sell you. just read the installs and do it cheap, like in your price range
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3 pages worth of bolts clips and anything else you might need to do brakes on a Tundra I don't own. I think I know what I need to do the swap I just need to start saving to buy everything
 
aa.allen said:
3 pages worth of bolts clips and anything else you might need to do brakes on a Tundra I don't own. I think I know what I need to do the swap I just need to start saving to buy everything
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When you figure out the calipers, rotors and pads to buy, you can use this video [MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] and I made doing this mod for another member.

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mtbtim said:
When you figure out the calipers, rotors and pads to buy, you can use this video [MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] and I made doing this mod for another member.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/P8zy-j4UBUo?list=PLPMpPriBUyJC_aXG6cIRhjv6w4heeIZJ6" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Awesome
Thank you!
 
I was discussing this with my buddy, who said he had issues with warped rotors pretty frequently on his Tundra. Wondering if anyone has the same issue with the swap on 4Runners.
 
itskmill06 said:
I was discussing this with my buddy, who said he had issues with warped rotors pretty frequently on his Tundra. Wondering if anyone has the same issue with the swap on 4Runners.
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Brakes are sort of a subjective experience. Depending on location (do you live in hills, or flat land?) or driving style (are you easy on the brakes, or tend to stop fast & quick?) your brakes will wear out differently.

Almost every 4Runner owner with 175k+ miles will have experienced warped rotors. It's almost a sure thing :( Hearing of one Tundra with bad rotors doesn't worry me much, simple physics says that these rotors on a 4Runner will help against warping.
 
I recently picked up a 2000 with Tundra brake upgrade. The calipers are red, so I'm assuming that it's the ebay upgrade kit. Now, the problem that I'm having is super-soft brake pedal. Basically first 75% of pedal travel do nothing, and the last 25% do the braking. On to of that, it doesn't feel right, 4runner barely stops. Most of the time I have to use 95% of the pedal travel to come to a stop.

Any ideas suggestions? Has anyone swapped out/upgraded brake master?
 
RomanTPA said:
I recently picked up a 2000 with Tundra brake upgrade. The calipers are red, so I'm assuming that it's the ebay upgrade kit. Now, the problem that I'm having is super-soft brake pedal. Basically first 75% of pedal travel do nothing, and the last 25% do the braking. On to of that, it doesn't feel right, 4runner barely stops. Most of the time I have to use 95% of the pedal travel to come to a stop.

Any ideas suggestions? Has anyone swapped out/upgraded brake master?
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You need to bleed the brakes, starting from rear passenger, rear driver, front passenger, front driver.
 
RomanTPA said:
Any ideas suggestions? Has anyone swapped out/upgraded brake master?
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Make sure the rear drums are adjusted and bleed the brakes to start...

The rear drums should self adjust with e-brake use, but parts can seize and people don't always use the e-brake.

-Charlie
 
phattyduck said:
Make sure the rear drums are adjusted and bleed the brakes to start...

The rear drums should self adjust with e-brake use, but parts can seize and people don't always use the e-brake.

-Charlie
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The e-brake is 100% useless. It is completely lose and does nothing.
 
RomanTPA said:
The e-brake is 100% useless. It is completely lose and does nothing.
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This was the condition of my 00 T4R when I picked it up, still is. I just haven't gotten around to seeing what's causing the e-brake to not function, I'm guessing like [MENTION=139000]phattyduck[/MENTION] suggested, previous owner never used it so it just seized. After I did my Tundra brake upgrade, I bled the front brakes only and not the rears so my soft pedal is still an issue (not as dramatic as yours.) I haven't gotten around to bleeding the rears too... Man I'm lazy!
 
RomanTPA said:
The e-brake is 100% useless. It is completely lose and does nothing.
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That's your main problem. When I got my 4Runner from my sister (she had it for ~5 years), the brakes were pretty similar to how you describe them... At least 50% of the pedal travel was useless.

I have a California truck, so nothing was seized. I did have to take off the drum and spend some time spinning the star wheel to get the shoes snug with the drums. There is also a bellcrank adjustment that might be necessary and there is also an adjustment point inside the cab (though that probably won't be necessary).

-Charlie
 
So it wasn't the bleeding issue, still soft pedal. So now time to replace brake master?


Does the Tundra master fit the 4runner?
 
RomanTPA said:
Drum or e-brake ?
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Bell cranks are e-brake components, attached to the back of the drum and activated by the e-brake cable. They're basically spring-loaded levers that trigger the brake shoes inside the drum to grab the brake drum (thus applying brake pressure)

The in-cabin adjustment is a set of nuts on the threaded end of the cable that attaches to the parking brake lever and are used to help remove slack.
 
JBDaddy said:
Bell cranks are e-brake components, attached to the back of the drum
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My e-brake is zip tied to the drum. So no e-brake for me. :wtf:


EDIT: Just ordered Toyota 04493-30232 master rebuild kit ($65 HERE). And I'm going junk yard hunting for missing e-brake bits.
 
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