txbonds 97 4runner limited project
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chrisdowling84
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Man i love watching this build thread! Its like a good TV series! Cant wait to see the finished product.
mrtucker80
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Very nice, well documented build thread. Where did you source the parts for the manual hub conversion? Those look like shiny new parts, and do you have, or could you put together a list of parts for this? If you already have and I missed it could you just aim me to the correct page and post #? Thanks
txbonds
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Here you go, best resources I found:
http://www.sonoransteel.com/includes/templates/SonoranSteel/TechArticles/TacomaManualHubs.pdf
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/87516-aisin-manual-locking-hubs.html
I did end up going with new parts. Crazy, I know, but I decided it was the route I wanted to go after I ended up getting the new knuckles for free. I bought all the parts through Camelback Toyota, except a few that came from Marlin Crawler. Also I went with reman toyota CV axles rather than new because they were mucho cheaper. Certainly wouldn't want to go this route if you ever planned to SAS it though.
Here are the parts I bought through Marlin Crawler instead of Camelback, as they were about $50 cheaper
http://www.marlincrawler.com/axle/f...ardware/hardware-front-hilux/8mm-hub-stud-kit
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txbonds
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Just google corbeau sport seats. They come in a few different colors and materials. Around $300 each I think for vinyl. You need corbeau brackets or do like I did and make your own using plates from planted technology
The rear are just covered factory seats.
1985taylor1925
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This really is a fantastic thread op. A lot of great info with the detailed pictures.
I recently installed sound deadeing material in all my doors and rear cargo area. Its amazing how much of the stuff you can use! That took me 50 sq ft. I could probably use 3 rolls of it if I wanted to cover everything.
I had never heard of ensolite before this thread, and have a few questions about it. I looked it up and saw that it was developed by nasa for obsorbing energy and works great for sound deadening. What are your impressions of it so far? How effective is it compared to sound deadeners like Dynamat. And where did you get yours? Also, being that it obsorbs sound rather than reflecting it, does it have any affect on the sound system? Thats my biggest concern. I would be very interested in installing this over my sound deadener once I finish that project. But Im wondering how much it would affect speaker sound. The aluminum/tar sound deadeners like Dynamat really enhance speakers as the the aluminum layer faces the interior and the adhesive tar layer faces the exterior. So obviously sound is reflected in the cabin, and then blocked and reflected from outside the vehicle
I recently installed sound deadeing material in all my doors and rear cargo area. Its amazing how much of the stuff you can use! That took me 50 sq ft. I could probably use 3 rolls of it if I wanted to cover everything.
I had never heard of ensolite before this thread, and have a few questions about it. I looked it up and saw that it was developed by nasa for obsorbing energy and works great for sound deadening. What are your impressions of it so far? How effective is it compared to sound deadeners like Dynamat. And where did you get yours? Also, being that it obsorbs sound rather than reflecting it, does it have any affect on the sound system? Thats my biggest concern. I would be very interested in installing this over my sound deadener once I finish that project. But Im wondering how much it would affect speaker sound. The aluminum/tar sound deadeners like Dynamat really enhance speakers as the the aluminum layer faces the interior and the adhesive tar layer faces the exterior. So obviously sound is reflected in the cabin, and then blocked and reflected from outside the vehicle
txbonds
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Thanks for the kind words.
Here is where I purchased the ensolite. RAAMaudio - Automotive sound deadening products
How-To
The ensolite is a high frequency absorber. It also provides an air barrier between the constraining dampner like dynamat, and a heavier mass vinyl barrier. Works great and doesn't affect internal sound quality.
Here is where I purchased the ensolite. RAAMaudio - Automotive sound deadening products
How-To
The ensolite is a high frequency absorber. It also provides an air barrier between the constraining dampner like dynamat, and a heavier mass vinyl barrier. Works great and doesn't affect internal sound quality.
txbonds
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Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving week last week. Just a small update.
I picked up a Harbor Freight 20 Ton Press with plans to do my own bearing and hub pressing for my manual hub conversion. Toyota quoted me minimum of 2.5 hours labor and I couldn't find a shop in the area that someone I know recommends. Will post pictures of the process when I get it setup and do the work.
20 Ton Shop Press - Hydraulic Shop Presses on Sale
I picked up a Harbor Freight 20 Ton Press with plans to do my own bearing and hub pressing for my manual hub conversion. Toyota quoted me minimum of 2.5 hours labor and I couldn't find a shop in the area that someone I know recommends. Will post pictures of the process when I get it setup and do the work.
20 Ton Shop Press - Hydraulic Shop Presses on Sale
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TXRick
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txbonds
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You gotta have a nice big ol breaker bar to use with that socket
Don't know if I will have a use for it once my conversion is done. The manual hub setup doesn't use the same setup so no 36mm nut involved. Either way in will add it to the tool bin for future needs though.
On a different note I tackled two pain in the arse projecs tonight.
First I replaced the automatic transmission dipstick. Mine was bent from years of being forced into place. I ordered a new one from Toyota and while it is in boy is that a pain in the rump to get these things seated. Certainly an art form that gets easier with repeated practice. Here is the old one.
Second, a I replaced the PCV valve and grommet with original toyota parts. Install was a breeze even in spite of the limited hand space but removal of old parts sucked the big one.
First disconnected the hose
Then removed old valve. Best way I found was a really large flat head screw driver. Insert blade under the bottom of valve and rotate screw driver handle. Work your way around the base slowly lifting the old valve out of the grommet. I reached in through here with the screw driver
View before removal
Removed the bottom was filthy with oily sludge.
Old next to new
I don't have good pictures but I managed to get the grommet out using a knife and needle nose pliers. It was so old and brittle there was no pulling it out. I used a knife blade to slice through the grommet on two sides. Then with the needle nose I pulled it out. The whole thing fell into the hole but I was able to pull the pieces out one at a time. My advice is don't wait 187k miles to change these. LOL
It's hard to see but there was a lot of junk inside the hole. I used a vacuum with a small attachment to suck as much loose material out as possible and then used a flat head screw driver to scrape the rest that I could reach out or loose to vacuum out. This was after a little cleaning.
Installed the new grommet by simply pressing it in
Installed the new PCV valve by pressing into place while turning back and forth
Reconnected the hose and DONE
Providing the encouragement to attempt these projects............ One Grey Goose Martini. :trophy:
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txbonds
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Yeah, compared to a little lower down it looked pretty grungy. I would like to attempt a rebuild some time next year but will see how it goes.
txbonds
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FINALLY. I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ME TO DO THIS FOREVER !!!
SLIDER INSTALL
Disconnected battery
Rigging up the old Lincoln Arc Welder using the 40 amp heat breaker
Laying them out
Clamping the sliders in place in prep of welding
Dad welding sliders to the frame
Hard to see but used a sheet of lex an between the frame and gas tank to provide a little heat and spark barrier for the two rear drivers side tabs that lay alongside the gas tank
Here you can sort of see the heat burns on the lexan. Is leaning against my prime red roof rack.
finished product
FRONT BUMPER
Started raining before we could get to the front bumper so we are tackling that first thing in the morning.
PRESSING BEARINGS AND HUBS
Since it was raining, we started working in the garage on pressing the front bearings and hubs.
Pressing the bearing on Harbor Freight 20 ton press. Used steel plate on top and hitch draw bar below for support
Flat plate only gets it flush. Bearing needs to go further in to seat.
For final 1/4 inch or so of pressing we used two floor flanges. A 1" flange ground down just enough to fit in the knuckle and a 3/4" above it for extra spacer. Worked great.
Bearing pressed all the way in with large retainer ring snapped in place
Dust shield bolted in place with Toyota hardware. Torque to 13 ft lbs per the service manual.
Setting up to press the hub/spindle through the bearing
Pressing the hub in. Used another hitch draw bar above the hub to press on
Hubs pressed in
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SLIDER INSTALL
Disconnected battery
Rigging up the old Lincoln Arc Welder using the 40 amp heat breaker
Laying them out
Clamping the sliders in place in prep of welding
Dad welding sliders to the frame
Hard to see but used a sheet of lex an between the frame and gas tank to provide a little heat and spark barrier for the two rear drivers side tabs that lay alongside the gas tank
Here you can sort of see the heat burns on the lexan. Is leaning against my prime red roof rack.
finished product
FRONT BUMPER
Started raining before we could get to the front bumper so we are tackling that first thing in the morning.
PRESSING BEARINGS AND HUBS
Since it was raining, we started working in the garage on pressing the front bearings and hubs.
Pressing the bearing on Harbor Freight 20 ton press. Used steel plate on top and hitch draw bar below for support
Flat plate only gets it flush. Bearing needs to go further in to seat.
For final 1/4 inch or so of pressing we used two floor flanges. A 1" flange ground down just enough to fit in the knuckle and a 3/4" above it for extra spacer. Worked great.
Bearing pressed all the way in with large retainer ring snapped in place
Dust shield bolted in place with Toyota hardware. Torque to 13 ft lbs per the service manual.
Setting up to press the hub/spindle through the bearing
Pressing the hub in. Used another hitch draw bar above the hub to press on
Hubs pressed in
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BrianSD_42
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Your truck is looking awesome!
Where did you buy the remanufactured Toyota CV Axels?
How much were they?
THanks! :clap2:
txbonds
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Thanks Man. I got them through Cammelback Toyota online. Think they were like $125 each. They are the manual hub version.
Item number 1 on this page should be it for a 97 4runner at $149
http://parts.camelbacktoyota.com/pa...siteid=214329&vehicleid=68842&diagram=F809200
The manual ones were $125 for comparison.
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txbonds
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A little more progress today
TRIMMING WHEEL WELL LINER
The CBI hybrid is so high and tight on the ends that you have to trim a bunch of the factory wheel well liner out of the way.
After trimming you can see where I decided to cut the liner here
Didn't make just one cut. Did multiple smaller trims before I decided how far to take it.
FRONT BUMPER
Test fitting the bumper to get everything aligned for fab and welding
Ground down the sides of the factory plate on the front of the frame rails
Getting ready to weld on the side tabs on the custom brackets that the bumper will bolt to
Setting plate on frame to tack weld the second side plate in place. Then it gets pulled off and the side tab fully welded on.
Dad welding newly fabbed bracket to the frame
One of the welds..... And His words, not mine....... "Not pretty, but solid"
After getting both plate brackets welded to the frame, I remounted bumper and marked the mounting holes to be drilled into the bracket. Unfortunately I broke a handful of my Milwaukee drill bits trying to drill the holes large enough. Nearly broke my wrist when the first bit snagged and then broke. Was drilling with a Milwaukee heavy duty 1/2" electric drill and that puppy spins with some hearty torque.
Had to stop at this point to go get a new box of drill bits and will finish it up tonight or tomorrow. Then will need to prime and paint all of the welds and new brackets. Will post up completion pictures in a few days when I get that done but overall I'm really thrilled with how everything is coming together.
BIG THANK YOU SHOUT TO MY DAD FOR HELPING THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!! LOVE YOU POP............
TRIMMING WHEEL WELL LINER
The CBI hybrid is so high and tight on the ends that you have to trim a bunch of the factory wheel well liner out of the way.
After trimming you can see where I decided to cut the liner here
Didn't make just one cut. Did multiple smaller trims before I decided how far to take it.
FRONT BUMPER
Test fitting the bumper to get everything aligned for fab and welding
Ground down the sides of the factory plate on the front of the frame rails
Getting ready to weld on the side tabs on the custom brackets that the bumper will bolt to
Setting plate on frame to tack weld the second side plate in place. Then it gets pulled off and the side tab fully welded on.
Dad welding newly fabbed bracket to the frame
One of the welds..... And His words, not mine....... "Not pretty, but solid"
After getting both plate brackets welded to the frame, I remounted bumper and marked the mounting holes to be drilled into the bracket. Unfortunately I broke a handful of my Milwaukee drill bits trying to drill the holes large enough. Nearly broke my wrist when the first bit snagged and then broke. Was drilling with a Milwaukee heavy duty 1/2" electric drill and that puppy spins with some hearty torque.
Had to stop at this point to go get a new box of drill bits and will finish it up tonight or tomorrow. Then will need to prime and paint all of the welds and new brackets. Will post up completion pictures in a few days when I get that done but overall I'm really thrilled with how everything is coming together.
BIG THANK YOU SHOUT TO MY DAD FOR HELPING THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!! LOVE YOU POP............
