Use H4 in heavy rain?

You're missing the point numbnutz...it becomes a convaluted mess of reduntantcy steered by the fact , for whatever reason, people are too fuk in lazy to even attempt to search....because some enabler is always willing to make excuses for them.

Case in point, the last 6 pages of topics here, half could easily be solved by a simple search...but nope...some lazy azz MO fo gets butt hurt when they're directed to the search function.

So the people that can help the most for a legit problem, dont get engaged in a topic because they've seen it 17 times in the last 3 months.

Exactly. If you go back to the original answers that were answered by people who are knowledgable about the subjects you will get a great amount of good info. After a question has been asked multiple times the answers are watered down, the stimulating back and forth is not there and the guys who KNOW their stuff won't engage for the 17th time. If you want a good answer then search. If you want just a so so maybe right maybe wrong answer then don't. Simple.
 
What is your experience using H4 in heavy rain? I'm moving to Seattle soon so I'll see a ton of it.

I thought that RWD was good to go for rain? I thought i'd read that RWD is actually superior to FWD in the rain. I don't know, but what I do know is this: I live in Seattle. You're over thinking it.
 
If everybody used the search function for every topic that has been covered, it would cover about 99.9999% of the topics and this would be a pretty damn boring forum now wouldn't it?

No, no it wouldn't.

Unless answering the same silly questions over and over again is how you get your jollies. I try not to judge.
 
How about using the search function in the rain? Think it will help my ability to find topics that have been covered over and over again?

i looked up your stats. seems like you asked a few questions yourself in the past. did you get *****ed out?
 

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... If you go back to the original answers that were answered by people who are knowledgable about the subjects you will get a great amount of good info.

You presume that "the original answers" were given by "people knowledgeable about the subjects." I doubt that presumption is valid. The internet is full Of BS, beginning to end.

perhaps you are extending your subjective experience onto everybody else; that is, you answer at first, but tune out later, but that would be just a little conceited would it not?

In my experience, useful replies are just as consistently available as are useless replies. And so are search nazis.

A "use the search function" reply, with nothing more, is less useful than an oft-repeated question.
 
You're missing the point numbnutz...it becomes a convaluted mess of reduntantcy steered by the fact , for whatever reason, people are too fuk in lazy to even attempt to search....because some enabler is always willing to make excuses for them.

Case in point, the last 6 pages of topics here, half could easily be solved by a simple search...but nope...some lazy azz MO fo gets butt hurt when they're directed to the search function.

So the people that can help the most for a legit problem, dont get engaged in a topic because they've seen it 17 times in the last 3 months.

they won't, and don't "engage" anyway. the ****ing "we were here first the rest of you can't ask questions anymore" entitlement syndrome is overwhelming on this board. you guys think posts about stereo stuff from 2012 is still relevant.

most of you enjoy posting something like "search" instead of helping, if you didn't enjoy being an ******* you would simply NOT type anything

but no you guys sit back and think "again? again! some mere pleeb DARED to ask a question that has already been asked! well i'll show him i'll type a shitty reply instead of a genuine one". how dare we taint your precious message board with messages!

pretty soon all you guys will just have to re read each others old, yet excellent posts on all matters instead of waiting for some new guy to pounce on with the revered "search you idiot" posts or pointing to some mega generalized faq.
 
i looked up your stats. seems like you asked a few questions yourself in the past. did you get *****ed out?


Not sure what you're saying here and how it's relevant to anything I have posted in this thread. Am I supposed to be addressing the thread you highlighted? The reality is that questions will be repeated and everyone knows that. That's not the issue. The issue is that people can't be bothered to look at the most recent threads or do a simple search out of pure laziness.
 
they won't, and don't "engage" anyway. the ****ing "we were here first the rest of you can't ask questions anymore" entitlement syndrome is overwhelming on this board. you guys think posts about stereo stuff from 2012 is still relevant.


Is this thread about stereo stuff?? Let me guess rain in 2012 causes different hydroplaning issues than in 2015.
 
You presume that "the original answers" were given by "people knowledgeable about the subjects." I doubt that presumption is valid. The internet is full Of BS, beginning to end.


If we are going to follow that logic then how do you know that a "new" answer will be useful and correct?

And what's wrong with continuing the conversation in the original thread. Wouldn't it make sense to keep it up to date than to have someone stumble across it and think it's correct and not know there is another thread?
 
You presume that "the original answers" were given by "people knowledgeable about the subjects." I doubt that presumption is valid. The internet is full Of BS, beginning to end.

perhaps you are extending your subjective experience onto everybody else; that is, you answer at first, but tune out later, but that would be just a little conceited would it not?

In my experience, useful replies are just as consistently available as are useless replies. And so are search nazis.

A "use the search function" reply, with nothing more, is less useful than an oft-repeated question.

How about this then?
1. Many original questions were answered by people such as Harper7, SoCalTrail, Antman (who did many of the mods first THEN answered the questions) and a host of others. Personally, especially on more complex questions relating to physics like lug nut torque breakage, winch pulling, tow hook strength, etc, I spent hours doing calculations to answer specific original questions. Others, such as TitanPat, Bimrunner, PhillyD2 and Ducmonsta did extremely detailed build threads complete with write ups and illustrations.
Do people do that now? No. Why? Because they spent the time originally to document all this crap so future people in need of this information could simply search and find everything they need to know. The answers to most questions are out there.
Here's the deal: The new guys who have the knowledge to answer the noob questions have already searched because that's how they got their knowledge. That, and previous experiences. You see, they were smart enough to SEARCH to get their information! Some guys come on here now and don't even know there is a sticky with FAQ's that will answer just about everything from suspension to removing interior trim panels.
Now, I'm an engineer. I don't "presume" very much of anything. If I don't know something I research it. The guys I listed above? I talk to them on the phone, I text with some of them. I know what their job in the real world is and I definitely know their experience. I would not have listed them if I didn't do my due diligence bro.
You know, maybe these guys would answer more questions if we didn't have to deal with BS posts like this. The internet is full of wrong answers. This is one place that filters most of them out. You have been here less than a month... take some time, do some research (search) and next year you can then come back and tell me I am wrong. Until then you are just another butthurt noob with a fantasy opinion steeped in nothing but speculation. Have a great day.
 
they won't, and don't "engage" anyway. the ****ing "we were here first the rest of you can't ask questions anymore" entitlement syndrome is overwhelming on this board. you guys think posts about stereo stuff from 2012 is still relevant.

most of you enjoy posting something like "search" instead of helping, if you didn't enjoy being an ******* you would simply NOT type anything

but no you guys sit back and think "again? again! some mere pleeb DARED to ask a question that has already been asked! well i'll show him i'll type a shitty reply instead of a genuine one". how dare we taint your precious message board with messages!

pretty soon all you guys will just have to re read each others old, yet excellent posts on all matters instead of waiting for some new guy to pounce on with the revered "search you idiot" posts or pointing to some mega generalized faq.

Read the post above.
 
The search functions don't always work very well .. I know this to be true.

Further, longtime members often come to think that a forum is their own private little hangout. where the "lame newcomers" are not really welcome. It happens on all forums, but seems to be pretty prevalent here. The oldtimers get a bit jaded by it all, and look upon simple questions as beneath their worth to even respond to, so, instead of just clicking on another thread, they tend to flex their internet muscles by berating a new guy.

No answer to it .. pretty common, but at times, also pretty distasteful. If I don't want to answer a question, and I often don't, because some internet expert regurgitating what he has merely read somewhere before, will come on and tell me I'm wrong ... Not about something I could be wrong about, but something I know to be true.

Who needs it?? I let the Pro's spout off and move on with my day.
 
they won't, and don't "engage" anyway. the ****ing "we were here first the rest of you can't ask questions anymore" entitlement syndrome is overwhelming on this board. you guys think posts about stereo stuff from 2012 is still relevant.

most of you enjoy posting something like "search" instead of helping, if you didn't enjoy being an ******* you would simply NOT type anything

but no you guys sit back and think "again? again! some mere pleeb DARED to ask a question that has already been asked! well i'll show him i'll type a shitty reply instead of a genuine one". how dare we taint your precious message board with messages!

pretty soon all you guys will just have to re read each others old, yet excellent posts on all matters instead of waiting for some new guy to pounce on with the revered "search you idiot" posts or pointing to some mega generalized faq.

Enable much??
 
blah blah blah rant blah rant ... Until then you are just another butthurt noob with a fantasy opinion steeped in nothing but speculation. Have a great day.

I am not "butthurt," until your unpleasant rant, I had not yet argued with anybody in this forum, or even this thread. In fact, I still have not, as I leave you to argue with (and impress) yourself. If either of us has a sore ass, it sounds like it must be you, given your demeanor and willingness to resort to name-calling.

As to my being a "newb," so what? That is important to people who place undue importance on post count. I did just recently buy a 4Runner, it is true, but I have long held posts like yours in low esteem.

Welcome to my ignore list.

When people offend you with their refusal to search to your satisfaction, why don't you just add them to your ignore list? A simple solution that benefits everybody.
 
4wd is for lack of traction while applying power to the wheels. unless you're using the throttle 4wd does not help. There are no circumstances in which you should have traction problems in the rain on tarmac unless you're hydroplaning. If you're hydroplaning then its due to tires, not drive-line power.
 
Yes, the oldtimers are quick to point out that someone did not search, but this place seems to have more than its fair share of people asking the same simple questions over and over.

The first couple of months I was on here, I thought "Man, some of these guys are real d**ks", but after hanging around a while I am starting to see where they are coming from. I guess the best suggestion for everyone is "Lighten up, Francis".
 

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