Using Liquid Moly Longtime High Tech 5W-30?

[BlueHenT4R]

What do you thing you are getting with these exotic (in name only) oils? It isn't as if there are any quantifiable gains over regularly changed national brand synthetics or even generic conventional oil. You can argue over your nonsense Bob's data where you compare minute chemical analysis differences, but the reality is that data is meaningless unless you are running some ultra high performance F1 motor.

It cracks me up to see the efforts people put into overthinking motor oil.

I don't think you were adressing me specifically, but the reason I am doing oil analysis right now is because I bought the T4R used with 105K in December and I needed to know the state of the engine and to establish the best oil change interval. I'm hoping to work up to 15K on Mobil 1 EP, but I have to hit several wickets before I get there, namely extending and testing at 5k, 7.5k, 10k, 12.5k, and 15k. That's the plan anyway. And I totally agree with you; Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum, etc should be more than adequate in any T4R engine. No need to go further than your closest Walmart to source your oil.

 

[Sungod]

I don't think you were adressing me specifically, but the reason I am doing oil analysis right now is because I bought the T4R used with 105K in December and I needed to know the state of the engine and to establish the best oil change interval. I'm hoping to work up to 15K on Mobil 1 EP, but I have to hit several wickets before I get there, namely extending and testing at 5k, 7.5k, 10k, 12.5k, and 15k. That's the plan anyway. And I totally agree with you; Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum, etc should be more than adequate in any T4R engine. No need to go further than your closest Walmart to source your oil.

I think you are still over analyzing a situation. Those metrics mean very little in terms of longevity. Lubrication is a small part of the very big picture. Spending money on oil analysis is essentially chasing unicorns. Not to mention that there is no guarantee that your analysis is even accurate. I would be willing to bet that you could pull two different samples from the same oil and get different results.

I know everyone has their passions, and people probably think I am crazy for spending more on craft beer, but getting all worked up over motor oil is just plain silly to me.

 

[bob3dsf]

I have to agree with sungod, as long as you use the correct weight and change every 3-5k (or whatever the oil says its rated for), any oil will be fine. That you have oil and change it regularly are the most important things regarding oil.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

Liquid Moly is a good brand (as good as most every other top quality oil brand), so I wouldn't be afraid to use it. But then again, most of the newer Toyota engines aren't very hard on oil (our historic sludge motors and the 2AZ-FE [2.4L I4] that has European levels of oil consumption non-withstanding), so using a quality 5w-30 or 5w-20 oil should not hurt the engine. Running a full Base Group 4 synthetic oil is not a bad idea, but a Base Group 3 "Synthetic" (it's technically more of synthetic-blend rather than a true synthetic, hence much of the "Old Mobil1 vs. New Mobil1 comments") is similarly beneficial to your vehicle vs. typical "dino oil."

I wouldn't get too worked up over analyzing the wear characteristics and trying to overthink the oil on the 4Runner. Unlike newer engines or European vehicles the engines, Toyota gives the consumer a wide berth in engine oil selection/usability. As long as it is a SAE 5w-30 or a 5w-20 (if you want to go that thin) that meets or exceeds API rating SN, it's good to go!