value of the body on frame 4runner

[pacho]

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[COHaus]

I have a 2011 TE (stock) and have had it for almost a year now and have never averaged 13-15 MPG.

 

[jam23r1]

I have a 2011 TE (stock) and have had it for almost a year now and have never averaged 13-15 MPG.

You don't obey your Eco meter. I have a lift and bigger tires and get 17 in the city and 21 highway.

 

[jrandom]

But my opinion is worth about as much as my opinion on automotive design or PRS guitars, which is to say, not much at all.

Which is exactly why I care... zero about his opinion and only 0.0000001% of the total ground surface of the US is paved

 

[LandCruiser]

Derek approaches the article from the perspective of an automotive author and a pretty decent expert on the current market.

Body on frame SUVs are dead.

People want great MPG, car-like ride, and the feeling that there's "all wheel drive" trickery down there somewhere so that they can barrel down an icy road at 60mph with the false sense of security.

 

[swimmerdude1127]

You don't obey your Eco meter. I have a lift and bigger tires and get 17 in the city and 21 highway.

Not trying to derail the thread but this is dependent. Once I put MT/R's on I'm lucky to get close to 16 ever. Pretty much the only way is to be at 55mph and be super easy on the gas. Also, that's calculated with my odo and the gas between fillups. Do it that way and you'll notice your mpg gauge is sometimes off by up to 1mpg (from my experience).

 

[jam23r1]

Not trying to derail the thread but this is dependent. Once I put MT/R's on I'm lucky to get close to 16 ever. Pretty much the only way is to be at 55mph and be super easy on the gas. Also, that's calculated with my odo and the gas between fillups. Do it that way and you'll notice your mpg gauge is sometimes off by up to 1mpg (from my experience).

Reset the mpg gage every time you fill up. Push and hold the button. Stay in the green keep the rpms low you'll see a big improvement in mpg. It's not easy at first it takes discipline. But once you get used to it you will start to see a savings. Even if you have bigger tires. And don't ever go over 70mph. I find 65 to 68 will get me about 20mpg and if I'm not in a hurry I'll go 55 or 60 and I'll get 22+mpg. Once I started I seen a avg savings of at lest 50 to 60$ a mouth that's a lot of a year. Just my 2 cents.

 

[jrandom]

Derek approaches the article from the perspective of an automotive author and a pretty decent expert on the current market.

Body on frame SUVs are dead.

People want great MPG, car-like ride, and the feeling that there's "all wheel drive" trickery down there somewhere so that they can barrel down an icy road at 60mph with the false sense of security.

I am not saying he is wrong. He does after all have the job he has because people do value his opinion. In fact as a general rule, his and your statements are all too true. The thing is and I think a majority of the people here would agree, I will sacrifice all that trickery for a solid, reliable, modifiable, not-as-disposable truck Guess I am just an old-fart

 

[swimmerdude1127]

Reset the mpg gage every time you fill up. Push and hold the button. Stay in the green keep the rpms low you'll see a big improvement in mpg. It's not easy at first it takes discipline. But once you get used to it you will start to see a savings. Even if you have bigger tires. And don't ever go over 70mph. I find 65 to 68 will get me about 20mpg and if I'm not in a hurry I'll go 55 or 60 and I'll get 22+mpg. Once I started I seen a avg savings of at lest 50 to 60$ a mouth that's a lot of a year. Just my 2 cents.

Pushing and resetting the mpg display does not calculate with 100% accuracy. I was doing just this when it was 1mpg off. It usually reads low though so you're probably getting better mpg than indicated.

Even watching my acceleration and speed, still lucky to get 16. I'm making a 5-6 hr interstate drive today so I'll try and get exact results.

 

[jrandom]

Yeah but you've also got like an extra 700 lbs of armor on your ride, plus your other accessories. That is like driving around with 2 extra people with full load out, or 3 big beer drinkers, or an NFL linesman