vibrations after rotation , stayed with balance

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Not sure where I shouldve put this but its 4th gen so ill try here. 67k miles on 06 sr5, daystar level kit, 265/70/17 tires. 5k on duratracs, there was no vibration before the tire rotation. I rotated saturday rears to front, fronts to rear and crossed. Vibration was noticed immediately, comes on around 50ish. Took it to stealership to balance today(because its close to work), they said the balance was off on the fronts, but problem is still there. Any other suggestion before i dump money into an alignment or should i just unrotate the tires? no other problems when driving, does track or pull to one on highway
 
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It's always good to rotate them to ensure even wear. Is there noticeable wear in certain areas on the tire? If so, that may be an alignment issue.

If not, then maybe you'll need an alignment at the stealership or if you can find another reputable place that's close for you to get one done cheaper.
 
If the vibrations are slight, I would drive it for a while and see if it gets better. You probably feel the tread wear.
 
Any sign of tread separation on the inside of the tire? How many miles are on your shocks?

My wrangler had the same issue. The shocks were so bad that it caused uneven bumps in the tires which made balancing impossible.
 
shocks probably have less than 10 k they were installed in may , when the originals broke when putting in the lift. at the time i didnt know better and put in monroe sensa struts becase thats what the shop recommended and I didnt have the vast amount of knowledge I do now.
gerdo, i was thinking the same thing. I finally got out to taking it on the highway as my daily driving is local.. at 55 it starts vibrating and eases up around past 65.. so I want to just ride it out and see what happens. How many miles do you think i should give it to self correct?
 
Just another thought... I chased a vibration for a while and ended up having my tires checked by another shop. All of the tires were "balanced", but one tire had a higher "road force" number than the others. He had to break down the tire and rotate it on the rim to put the heavy spot on the tire opposite the heavy spot on the rim. He spun it back up, rebalanced it, and the "road force" number fell right in line with the others. It's been silky smooth ever since!
 
The vibration or "Death Wobble" as its called will only get worse. Plus its terrible for your suspension components. Try having
them road forced.

This is what my wrangler did. Scary as hell. It shook sooo bad I could see sun between the hardtop and window frame.

Death Wobble - YouTube
 
Its' probably a bad tire. As said above have them road force balanced. Checking alignment has nothing to do with a vibration.
 
Don't waste your money on an alignment unless you are seeing wear. It is probably a tire or a wheel. Tire guys typically put the worst rolling tires on the back so you won't notice it. You should go back to where you got the tires from and have them take a look. Road force balancing is a waste of money IMHO.
 
road force balancing is not a waste of money when you're dealing with larger tires. its very much worth it and its cheaper than replacing the tire.

with that said, you could have a bad tire or bent rim...but usually a bent rim would show up when attempting to balance it. id lean more so to a bad tire which can balance properly but have a tread issue. you can rotate them back but than you'll wear your tires unevenly eventually having to replace them pre maturely. its not an alignment issue so that you can cross off your list.
 
I had a similar issue a while back. I had the tires rebalanced and an alignment done. It helped some, but definitely didn't fix it. Not long after that I installed ome coils on the front. I immediately notice the vibration was gone. I never figured out what it was, I can only assume something was loose in the front suspension. I would start by checking the suspension components to see if anything is loose or has slack where it shouldn't.
 
turns out it was road force balanced. DTD is sending me a replacement for free :bravo: I also think my suspension is probably f*cked,, if it is or isnt it give me a reason to lift it up
 
I would also like to recommend to anyone who is dealing with a steering wheel shimmy to invest in Road Force Balance. I did a search from the Hunter web site for a local dealer with the newest model machine. Hunter GSP9700 Wheel vibration Control System solves wheel vibration and tire pull problems that balancers and aligners can't fix
I also learned to ask the shop if they have the proper adapter for my wheel. Turns out the 4Runner has a unique sized hub, and the older Hunter road force machines didn't come with the proper sized adapter. The shop I used had just purchased a new machine a few months back, so they did have the correct parts needed.
The charge was $20 per wheel. The mechanic had to "spin" two tires. End result is a perfectly smooth ride now. Very happy, and I'll pay for this service again when needed.
 
$20.00 Is pretty cheap. you got a good deal. we charge a little more for each wheel...it can be time consuming and a PIA but its well worth it when you feel the end result.
 
TNTramair said:
road force balancing is not a waste of money when you're dealing with larger tires. its very much worth it and its cheaper than replacing the tire.
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The shop I have been going to for years to get my tires had a road force machine. I noticed this past time that it was gone. I asked the service manager about it. He said that they took it out because it was a hassle and didn't make any money. He said they called it the idiot machine because it was only good for techs that didn't know what they were doing, and that a good tech can spot and fix an issue a lot faster than it takes to use the machine.

Here is my view. I have owned many different cars that include several different Toyota trucks as well as others. I have replaced many tires and regularly have them rotated and rebalanced. I have never had a vibration issue that could not be properly diagnosed. Why would I pay extra for a machine that my skilled techs can perform the same work and not charge me double? I have had tires that weren't perfectly round, I have had wheel issues, etc. In each of these cases the techs have identified these and either corrected them by rotating the tire on the wheel or beating it with a hammer or just told me what to expect. That is the same service that the road force balancer claims to provide. It is pretty simple. It is either round or it isn't. It is either balanced or it is not. That is what I pay for and what I get. I see no need to pay extra for the services that I am already paying for.
 
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