"Voltage Booster" for 31M AGM Battery

Does anyone have any experience with this voltage booster?

Not me, but that's the same thing. It's a diode in series with the fuse.

It's one of these,,,
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modified to have the diode soldered in. That is why the front fuse holder section is taped off. You connect one end to that red wire, then the other end goes in the right side of the fuse holder which then connects to the end of the fuse. the other end of fuse goes to Alt.
 
It's all over the Internet in many forums and YT vids.

that 'fuse' you speak of is a regular fuse with a diode attached in series. Looks like this......


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The fuse facilitates placing it in the circuit. The Diode drops voltage when placed in the circuit by it's physical nature. We are basically using what has most often been considered a negative aspect of the diode(voltage loss when inserted in circuit ) to solve a negative created by Toyota ( voltage regulation too low for AGM ).

They are used everywhere in electronics and have been forever.

In this scenario the voltage drop fools the Toyota electrical scheme into thinking it's too low, and it continues to deliver more voltage.

There is a threshold that needs to be crossed for the AGM battery. This diode voltage drop 'trick' basically facilitates crossing that threshold.

It's not a one size fits all perfect thing though.

Silicon diodes ( most common these days ) drop about .6V. It's just the way they are.

So for instance if you had a 12V circuit and needed to power a 9V device.

You put 5 diodes end to end dropping .6 each and you have 9V.

+12>>> --|--.--|--.--|--.--|--.--|-->>9V

So this 1 Diode 'trick' for the 4R just happens to get us inside that AGM window. Maybe you get 14.1, 14.2, 14.3, or the ideal 14.4. What we don't want is to go over 14.9.

So whatever we fool Toyota with it adds back. We fool it with .6v drop, it adds that back. So if we had 13.5 before, now we have 14.1 and the AGM says ok, I can deal with that.

All this is very coincidental and convenient at the same time. Not all diodes are alike. If you put an LED in there. It might try to drop 2Vs. That is their nature. Each color has a different drop from about 1.5V to 3.5V. Still a diode, just a different kind.

So it seems like we need like a Silicon diode and half. Well no such thing. But... there are Germanium diodes.. older and not as common these days.

They tend to drop -less- voltage. So if we could find the right combination of silicon diode ( 10cents ) + a Germainum diode ( $2 )in series. Maybe we could get .8 or .9 volt drop. Now that 13.5 from Toyota would jump up to 14.4 or the ideal AGM voltage. AND.. it would still be in safe range for everything else, and it would still be fused as normal.

So the trick is to find just the right diode pair for your truck. There are a million different diodes out there and they do publish their specs but it's for a specific temp / volt / amp. So a diode that specs on paper at 1V might measure .7

But this is what everyone is doing and most people are fine with being 'close and good'. No matter if they are doing it for 4W or Audio or whatever.

I'm just trying to find a way we could have a tuneable setup to dial in that extra or lesser .25 volts to create as close to ideal for the AGM. Otherwise you still aren't getting your complete money's worth from it.. unless you condition it from time to time with something like that CTEK.

Unfortunately the part we use to do it is a finicky part. You can have a bag of the same part and many different results.

But even with just two diodes we have a lot of options.

Silicon - S
Germanium - G

S --- works for a lot of people, not ideal
S + S --- too much voltage - will ruin system
S + G --- could work and maybe be ideal
G + G --- could work and maybe be ideal
G --- likely too little change to meet AGM needs

Only issue is a lot of trail and error. No one size fits all.

If we could get a 14.5 MAX and maybe drop into 14.2, I think that would be a good range based on results I have read from many people.

You asking for Microprocessor to control.
They are used everywhere.
Did a lots of projects using them.
 
You asking for Microprocessor to control.
They are used everywhere.
Did a lots of projects using them.

That would be great but at the same time offering more points of failure and difficulty in field repair. But you could measure the voltages at load, battery, alternator out, rpm, and constantly adjust to anything you want based on various system conditions.

Not unlike those tuner chips people buy for performance.

I'm not much on the software side of things though, but am surprised someone hasn't done an Arduino or RaspberryPi adaptation. I guess it's because the current solution basically 'works'... until Toyota changes something.
 
Does anyone have any experience with this voltage booster?

Alternator Voltage Booster For Toyota FJ Cruiser & 4Runner | eBay
Seller is the same name as a member on the FJ forum.
I have a Northstar 31M but haven't installed it yet. I'm going back and forth on whether I want to just install it as a single battery or part of a dual setup.

I ordered one of the above diode/fuse boosters from eBay. My stock system does not properly maintain an AGM because the OEM voltage is too low for full charge, it's on the low side for a lead acid too. I've tested the stock alternator on my 2007 and it has plenty of reserve amps.
 
Mine shipped 26 Jun and received yesterday...



Got mine :) had to pick it up at the post office because it required signature. Good instructions, so far so good. And just in time! I had just finished up upgrading the stock battery to a northstar 31(M) AGM with Pelfrybilt battery cage (and extending positive cable, negative was fine granted you flattened out the stock terminal). Also put in an ARB Fridge Wiring Kit.


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Got mine :) had to pick it up at the post office because it required signature. Good instructions, so far so good. And just in time! I had just finished up upgrading the stock battery to a northstar 31(M) AGM with Pelfrybilt battery cage (and extending positive cable, negative was fine granted you flattened out the stock terminal). Also put in an ARB Fridge Wiring Kit.


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Nice..I'll report back after install..I'm still running the OEM battery and an Optima YT for the aux...
 
Well installed the HKB after work. The truck was hot and instead of using a voltmeter; I just used the sPODs voltmeter which I monitor daily so figured it be ok.

Results? Impressed thus far, my voltage has went up .3-.4 volts at idle and no change engaged. Curious to see it in the morning on a cold engine. I'll monitor it for a while and see how it does. My main concern was I am still running the factory main battery but if voltage stays below 14.7..I'd says it's good...right now it was running 14.2v hot on a test drive...more to come.
 
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Well installed the HKB after work. The truck was hot and instead of using a voltmeter; I just used the sPODs voltmeter which I monitor daily so figured it be ok.

Results? Impressed thus far, my voltage has went up .3-.4 volts at idle and no change engaged. Curious to see it in the morning on a cold engine. I'll monitor it for a while and see how it does. My main concern was I am still running the factory main battery but if voltage stays below 14.7..I'd says it's good...right now it was running 14.2v hot on a test drive...more to come.

I've had the HKB in for 3 weeks now and it seems to be doing a good job charging both my AGM batteries. I haven't measured the voltage, but my ML-ACR solenoid disconnects the batteries at below 12.75V and sometimes the batteries stay connected all night. That voltage is a sign that they are fully charged, which won't happen at a max of 13.8V with the standard fuse, if I understand correctly.
 
I've had the HKB in for 3 weeks now and it seems to be doing a good job charging both my AGM batteries. I haven't measured the voltage, but my ML-ACR solenoid disconnects the batteries at below 12.75V and sometimes the batteries stay connected all night. That voltage is a sign that they are fully charged, which won't happen at a max of 13.8V with the standard fuse, if I understand correctly.

Good to hear..I'll definitely be closely monitoring the voltages as the reason I purchased was because of the voltage drop I was seeing in extreme heat conditions. Should be relatively cool this morning, low 80's and cold engine so curious how the boost will be there...
 
That voltage is a sign that they are fully charged,

That voltage is a sign that either battery is above 12.75v and below 16v. But it does not assure you that 'both' are charged.

It reads combined voltage. One batt or both, it doesn't care. Theoretically you could have one batt over charging and one slightly under charging.

The fact that you are over 12.75 at rest does not mean each batt is charged properly. It simply means the ML-ACR sees 12.75 to 16v from the set.

Your AGM is fully charged at 12.8 - 12.9 typically. So they could be perfectly charged or they they could be over charged or you could have any mix of over, under, normal.

You need to directly measure each battery.
 
That voltage is a sign that either battery is above 12.75v and below 16v. But it does not assure you that 'both' are charged.

It reads combined voltage. One batt or both, it doesn't care. Theoretically you could have one batt over charging and one slightly under charging.

The fact that you are over 12.75 at rest does not mean each batt is charged properly. It simply means the ML-ACR sees 12.75 to 16v from the set.

Your AGM is fully charged at 12.8 - 12.9 typically. So they could be perfectly charged or they they could be over charged or you could have any mix of over, under, normal.

You need to directly measure each battery.

Yes, of course this is technically correct, though the batteries are new, the solenoid is new, and I have also not had any occasion to deep cycle either battery yet, so I doubt one is overcharged and the other not charged (I have a 24F and a 35).

When I measured the batteries directly during the first week, I got 12.7V to one digit of precision for each. To get 12.8+ V and a true full charge, I don't think that will happen because the most voltage I have seen from the HKB fuse is 14.6V and Northstar says you need 14.8V. Moreover, at these battery voltages, the ECU is going to down regulate the alternator anyway. My understanding is that to get well above 12.6-12.7V you need more than the standard maximum alternator voltage, but I am not a battery expert.
 
Interested in everyone's experience as I just recently installed my Northstar 31M. Keep those reviews coming!


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Well, been monitoring for I guess a couple weeks now and I am seeing pretty consistent results, basically a .5v increase so 14.6v at parked at idle/cold and 14.1v hot and trans engaged...YMMV
 
Well, been monitoring for I guess a couple weeks now and I am seeing pretty consistent results, basically a .5v increase so 14.6v at parked at idle/cold and 14.1v hot and trans engaged...YMMV

Do you recall what your daily voltages were before an AGM style battery?

The .5 increase is exactly what you are supposed to see from a typical diode.

The reason I ask though is because the highest charge I have ever seen is 13.7v

It normally runs 13.2. Now I am simply running a standard battery. I was curious what, if any, change people see when going from standard battery to AGM.

So I'm looking to fill these blanks where the BEFORE scenario was 13.2v once normally charged.

Standard Battery Voltage 13.2 -13.7
AGM Battery Voltage ??
AGM Battery Voltage w/diode ??
 
Do you recall what your daily voltages were before an AGM style battery?

The .5 increase is exactly what you are supposed to see from a typical diode.

The reason I ask though is because the highest charge I have ever seen is 13.7v

It normally runs 13.2. Now I am simply running a standard battery. I was curious what, if any, change people see when going from standard battery to AGM.

So I'm looking to fill these blanks where the BEFORE scenario was 13.2v once normally charged.

Standard Battery Voltage 13.2 -13.7
AGM Battery Voltage ??
AGM Battery Voltage w/diode ??
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I run a dual battery system

OEM starting (not broken so no need to change)
Group 34 Aux

Before: 14.1v cold///hot 13.6v
After : .5v increase across the board

If you are running one battery, I speculate you would see the same numbers...
 
0.5V isn't enough for me (I generally see about 13.3V) but it still seems worth it.

Can someone post the link they ordered from so I don't have to scroll back to find?

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