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I don't think you've realized the beehive you just poked. Palaver 10 page debate coming in!
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I don't think you've realized the beehive you just poked. Palaver 10 page debate coming in!
cfranck1
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Thai
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Fair assessment. For me, i need my Apple Watch for silent notifications and that you can actually dismiss notifications & messages from the watch. I had a Garmin Vivosmart...loved it!! But two issues: notifies you of messages etc, but you cannot dismiss them until you go to your phone...and 2nd issue was that i got a rash from the band. I am not a power user at all. Need the silent notification because i wake up earlier than everyone else...and i need it to silently wake me up instead of waking up everyone around me. Apple Watch will easily lasts 2 days for me (i believe) because i just use it for above...again, not a power user. Actually, IF i did not develop the rash from the Garmin, then i would still be wearing it today instead of buying Apple Watch.
For those looking for something simple and cheap, i HIGHLY recommend Garmin Vivosmart. Light, simple, comfy.
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tS_kStin
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:bravo: Oh I do know haha. I am used to it. I like poking the technology beehive every once and a while.
tS_kStin
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The pebble had the same issue where you would dismiss the notification from the watch then open the phone and it would be there. But a couple updates ago where it is able to get some android wear integration that was fixed. I have never tried the alarms on my watch, it has them but I never use them so not sure if it could wake me up.
That is a bummer that it gave you a rash.
Thai
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Yeah, check for me if it does SILENT alarm (e.g. vibrate on wrist). That is what i need more than any other feature. Garmin had this.
My other concerns with most smartwatches today are:
1. copper/metal contacts in the back for charging (not sure what Pebble uses). Those things are gonna rust i think from sweat from your wrist.
2. glass can scratch...for me, my wristwatches have always been sapphire because i bump my arm into anything and everything!
(I love sapphire...part of the reason why i have not upgraded my iPhone is because i am waiting for sapphire smartphones.)
The two reasons above makes me afraid that a lot of these smartwatches are throw-aways after a year or two.
For Android users, the Huawei Watch looks great! Link: http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/huawei-watch/
tS_kStin
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Yeah, check for me if it does SILENT alarm (e.g. vibrate on wrist). That is what i need more than any other feature. Garmin had this.
My other concerns with most smartwatches today are:
1. copper/metal contacts in the back for charging (not sure what Pebble uses). Those things are gonna rust i think from sweat from your wrist.
2. glass can scratch...for me, my wristwatches have always been sapphire because i bump my arm into anything and everything!
(I love sapphire...part of the reason why i have not upgraded my iPhone is because i am waiting for sapphire smartphones.)
The two reasons above makes me afraid that a lot of these smartwatches are throw-aways after a year or two.
For Android users, the Huawei Watch looks great! Link: Huawei Watch - Timeless design. Smart within.
So it does a silent alarm where it vibrates with snooze options, just tried it and it worked. Not sure if it could wake me up but for reminding me of something that could do the trick.
As for your concerns:
1: I know what you mean, having them against your skin would mean they are in contact with moisture a lot. The pebble has a side charging system so it is not in contact with skin. They are still good as new for me.
2: Yeah that is a big thing for me as well. Working on my runner, motorcycle and whatever else I am doing can scratch or even break the watch screen. Sapphire is going to be awesome! But my pebble just has a clear plastic face so it doesn't really have a chance of breaking and it is surprisingly good with scratches. It is littered with scratches but they are all so small that I don't ever notice them while using it. I would have though that I would have made massive gouges in the screen but it holding up nicely for all the work and hitting my arm on stuff.
Couple of pics to show the charging and screen.
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Thai
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Thanks so much. Pebble did good!! Charging pins on the side shows well-thought out design. Our sweat is probably more toxic than saltwater!
At least with plastic, you can buff it out. With glass (including the ion-glass on Watch Sport models), there is nothing you can do other than change out the glass ($$) or throw the watch away. Heck, i have seen Android Wear watches have SCREEN PROTECTORS on them! :wtf:
The Apple Watch (non-Sport) is actually quite well-thought out. I have been studying it for weeks for any weaknesses (hardware-wise)...i had to before sinking money into it.
tS_kStin
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Yeah I am impressed. At first when I got my pebble didn't think too much about it being there was nothing else out other than a Galaxy gear that only works with Samsung (I use HTC). But now I am seeing my watch as better and better in terms of design and layout.
I have found some skins and screen protectors for pebble but I dont see a point. I guess if you want to change the look of the watch.
That was smart to do a bunch of research. I don't have to much of a problem with apple stuff, it is the "normal" apple buyer or any fanboy of any brand that only buys it for the brand even if it could be terrible compared to a different option.
I would be interested to hear how you like it.
Thai
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Got it yesterday. Impressive packaging. Beautiful design. User interface is different, but i am able to learn it all by playing around with it and reading manual on internet...took about 2 hours of both. Pretty easy given a new OS. Everything works well. Certain apps like Maps do take some time to come up. But otherwise, smooth UI.
My main negative right now is that it does NOT track your sleep, which is what i want. I hear that Apple may relying on 3rd party for this. I guess that Apple is assuming that people charge it at night...so, what's the point of sleep tracking. But, for me, it's the opposite...i charge it during the day (in my car) but need it at night. I am opposite to most folks i guess.
Silent alarm works great. Phone calls are surprisingly good on the Watch, but my arm gets tired from bending it and talking to the Watch...still prefer the phone. SIRI works surprisingly well...maybe even better than my phone?? Basically, i use SIRI to set my alarm(s). SIRI can do most of the functions without you having to navigate the interface/apps.
My main negative right now is that it does NOT track your sleep, which is what i want. I hear that Apple may relying on 3rd party for this. I guess that Apple is assuming that people charge it at night...so, what's the point of sleep tracking. But, for me, it's the opposite...i charge it during the day (in my car) but need it at night. I am opposite to most folks i guess.
Silent alarm works great. Phone calls are surprisingly good on the Watch, but my arm gets tired from bending it and talking to the Watch...still prefer the phone. SIRI works surprisingly well...maybe even better than my phone?? Basically, i use SIRI to set my alarm(s). SIRI can do most of the functions without you having to navigate the interface/apps.
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sandcrawler
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sprung for the stainless, eh Thai? nice! my wife and i got a 38mm and 42mm Sport, respectively. my delivery date was originally estimated as "June" but we received both of them yesterday.
the Sport band feels astonishingly luxe and supple. i really love it. apart from working out, i haven't worn a watch in many, many years, and it feels perfectly natural on my wrist; not big or ungainly in the least. Digital Touch and quick messaging from your wrist is pretty cool. even just for accelerating those frequent, quick communications between spouses—not having to pull your phone from your pocket, and minimizing their friction as you go about your day—it seems like it'll be very useful. of course, this is only day two.
just as an object alone, it is really quite beautiful; very understated, doesn't jump out at you. i think the people predicting the Watch will be a tech version of the fedora-and-popped-collar-douchebag-identifier are going to be surprised by just how unassuming it—and its use—truly is. it's going to be the polar opposite of the guy plunking down his huge-ass phablet on the dinner table.
Hepar
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I really don't have anything useful to add to this thread. Just that I find it kind of funny that cellphones sort of killed the watch for many of us (me included. Used to wear a watch but haven't worn one in almost 20 years) and now they're the ones to bring them back.
My first thoughts just by looking at the pictures of them is that they seem sort of bulky. I'm curious how they will evolve in their design. I doubt I'll ever buy one as I'm part of the 0.01% who uses their phone almost exclusively for talk and text.
My first thoughts just by looking at the pictures of them is that they seem sort of bulky. I'm curious how they will evolve in their design. I doubt I'll ever buy one as I'm part of the 0.01% who uses their phone almost exclusively for talk and text.
Thai
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For me, i have noticed that i don't use my iPhone much during the day. Only when i need to read stuff on the net do i pull out my iPhone. Otherwise, it is either charging somewhere else or on my hip in holster. SIRI or reply by voice is pretty accurate with the Watch (given that you are not surrounded by ambient noise). I answer texts via SIRI/voice dictation. I check stocks also by Watch.
Pretty cool. Battery life for my use...50% at 12 (daytime) hours. Again, i am not a power user and just have ESPN app installed on watch. The rest is stock Apple Watch apps.
Pretty cool. Battery life for my use...50% at 12 (daytime) hours. Again, i am not a power user and just have ESPN app installed on watch. The rest is stock Apple Watch apps.
sandcrawler
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same here. phone stays pocketed, for the most part. can't complain about battery life a whit: 12 hrs right now and at 69%.
there's certainly some maturing to do with the software and UX, but i'm really enjoying it so far.
Thai
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For those who like leather bands and/or flexibility, check this out: Classic and Modern Buckle Band Parts Let Third-Party Bands Connect to Apple Watch - Mac Rumors
Basically, order Watch with Modern Buckle and the Classic Buckle if you want flexibility.
Basically, order Watch with Modern Buckle and the Classic Buckle if you want flexibility.
Thai
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[MENTION=75445]4Running Daily[/MENTION]
Link: Apple Watch Stands Up to 1,200m Swim Workout and 10m High Dive Test - Mac Rumors
Under-promise, over-deliver! It is waterproof despite having speaker and microphone!
Link: Apple Watch Stands Up to 1,200m Swim Workout and 10m High Dive Test - Mac Rumors
Under-promise, over-deliver! It is waterproof despite having speaker and microphone!
Thai
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The whole idea of Watch (or any smartwatch) is that you do not have to pull out your smartphone so often to check something as simple as time of day or date or how the weather is or stock market prices or how important the text message that you just got. My phone is now in my pocket most of the time or in my desk charging. I only pull it out to play games, surf net, or buy something. Otherwise, it is collecting lint in my pocket.
Remember, Apple Watch (and smartwatches in general) costs LESS than a flagship phone. So, which do you want to abuse? Taking your phone out often (thus, degrading battery and display durability??) risks dropping it, losing it, etc.. Apple Watch may be relatively expensive, but it is still cheaper than your smartphone. Yes, you can get the Watch prices to go up if you go for expensive bands and/or case materials, but you get my point. My Watch costs $600. How much for 16gb iPhone 6? 6 PLUS?
For me, i held off upgrading my iPhone and instead bought the Watch.
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4Running Daily
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Stop spending my money for me hahah
Thai
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Good article of how useful Watch is: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/apple-watch-improved-daily-professional-191152341.html
Like i wrote above, it has been quite a change in my daily routine.
Like i wrote above, it has been quite a change in my daily routine.
Thai
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For those who think that Apple Watch is a fad...think again: Polaris Health Directions Partners with MD Anderson Cancer Center at Cooper on Breast Cancer Pilot Project Using the Apple Watch | Inside Cooper: The Official Blog of Cooper University Health Care
“Our integrated BHOM platform has been helping to improve overall outcomes in patients throughout the U.S. via browsers and iPads. Through this breast cancer pilot, we hope to see even better patient outcomes with the addition of the Apple Watch,” said Tina Harralson, Ph.D., science director, Polaris Labs.
“Via our secure Polestar platform, behavioral data captured through the Apple Watch will combine with medical data from the patients’ electronic health records within the Cooper health system and population health data,” Dr. Harralson explained, adding that data will include treatment side effects, sleep information, physical activity levels, patient mood, and other inputs. “Advanced analytics applied to this mix will result in meaningful and actionable insights for patients and their care teams as treatment progresses.”
“Patient engagement is a critical factor in successful treatment plans,” Dr. Grana continued. “We expect using the Apple Watch will help increase engagement and collect data that ultimately allows us to further refine treatment plans.”
She added: “Polaris and Cooper’s oncology team have been research partners for almost a decade and have collaborated on six studies related to behavioral health with funding from the National Institutes of Health. If results of this pilot prove promising, the partnership will pursue a National Cancer Institute research grant for a full-scale breast cancer project.”
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This MD Anderson (and its branches)...the #1 cancer center in the world. And the best part has not been released yet...Apple Watch is able to measure oxygenation (of your blood). Apple has not turned it on yet, but the hardware is there.
“Our integrated BHOM platform has been helping to improve overall outcomes in patients throughout the U.S. via browsers and iPads. Through this breast cancer pilot, we hope to see even better patient outcomes with the addition of the Apple Watch,” said Tina Harralson, Ph.D., science director, Polaris Labs.
“Via our secure Polestar platform, behavioral data captured through the Apple Watch will combine with medical data from the patients’ electronic health records within the Cooper health system and population health data,” Dr. Harralson explained, adding that data will include treatment side effects, sleep information, physical activity levels, patient mood, and other inputs. “Advanced analytics applied to this mix will result in meaningful and actionable insights for patients and their care teams as treatment progresses.”
“Patient engagement is a critical factor in successful treatment plans,” Dr. Grana continued. “We expect using the Apple Watch will help increase engagement and collect data that ultimately allows us to further refine treatment plans.”
She added: “Polaris and Cooper’s oncology team have been research partners for almost a decade and have collaborated on six studies related to behavioral health with funding from the National Institutes of Health. If results of this pilot prove promising, the partnership will pursue a National Cancer Institute research grant for a full-scale breast cancer project.”
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This MD Anderson (and its branches)...the #1 cancer center in the world. And the best part has not been released yet...Apple Watch is able to measure oxygenation (of your blood). Apple has not turned it on yet, but the hardware is there.
