We're gonna need a bigger boat.....

[JeepKiller]

So..... I partially sunk my 4Runner. We were mudding (horrible idea will never be participating again) and all of the mud holes were about a foot deep, or so we thought. We went on one that was kinda separated from everything else and I sank down and water was half way up the headlights and poured into the car filling it up to the bottom of the seats. I cut the engine as soon as I sank so I didn't suck any water in and the air filter was completely dry. I think my exhaust sucked in water and dirt because it comes really close to starting but it won't. Any ideas? I think I'm about to just hack saw the exhaust pipe right after the 2nd cat.

 

[Brveagle]

Got any buddies to pull it out? Pull it out, let the water drain. should fire right up.
If it would have been me, i may have tried to grab reverse to get out quickly, but obviously you did the smart thing.

 

[JayRolla]

So..... I partially sunk my 4Runner. We were mudding (horrible idea will never be participating again) and all of the mud holes were about a foot deep, or so we thought. We went on one that was kinda separated from everything else and I sank down and water was half way up the headlights and poured into the car filling it up to the bottom of the seats. I cut the engine as soon as I sank so I didn't suck any water in and the air filter was completely dry. I think my exhaust sucked in water and dirt because it comes really close to starting but it won't. Any ideas? I think I'm about to just hack saw the exhaust pipe right after the 2nd cat.

Exhaust is not under vacuum, it dont suck in water. It could have filled up but not "suck" it in. I dont see how you could have done that without wetting the filter. It sucks in at top the fender and you are pretty close.

If its dry, sounds like plugs are wet and some electrical. Pull plugs, wires and let her dry out. You can crank the motor with plugs out to pump water out if you did suck it in.

 

[JeepKiller]

Got any buddies to pull it out? Pull it out, let the water drain. should fire right up.
If it would have been me, i may have tried to grab reverse to get out quickly, but obviously you did the smart thing.

It's already pulled out. I have a buddy with a turbo diesel and it STRUGGLED to get it out. I tried firing it up, but it won't turn over.

 

[JeepKiller]

Exhaust is not under vacuum, it dont suck in water. It could have filled up but not "suck" it in. I dont see how you could have done that without wetting the filter. It sucks in at top the fender and you are pretty close.

If its dry, sounds like plugs are wet and some electrical. Pull plugs, wires and let her dry out. You can crank the motor with plugs out to pump water out if you did suck it in.

We already pulled the plugs and let the cylinders cycle, no water. I was however pulled out backwards, so could that have forced water into the exhaust? Every time I try to crank it water comes out of the exhaust.

 

[nevada]

We already pulled the plugs and let the cylinders cycle, no water. I was however pulled out backwards, so could that have forced water into the exhaust? Every time I try to crank it water comes out of the exhaust.

get the front jacked up as high as you can, see if it will drain.
or maybe disconnect one of the fittings up front and try to drain it.



anytime you get in deep water, assuming the intake stays above the water line, its best to leave the engine running. specifically to keep the exhaust clear.

 

[JeepKiller]

get the front jacked up as high as you can, see if it will drain.
or maybe disconnect one of the fittings up front and try to drain it.



anytime you get in deep water, assuming the intake stays above the water line, its best to leave the engine running. specifically to keep the exhaust clear.

The intake was well below the water line, otherwise I would not have cut the engine. We towed it up onto a hill so the front end is high up. The problem is the elbows of the exhaust pipe are at extreme angles.

 

[JeepKiller]

Can anyone give me the link to a thread on how to remove your entire interior? I know there are some, but they illude me.

 

[absalom]

Having been through something similar albeit much worse, here's what I would do.

Pull your battery
Pull ALL electronics and seal in bags of rice for 3-5 days
Pull all interior (this isn't hard, just start unscrewing stuff)
Pull ALL carpet
Flush all water out of block by hand turning crank
Replace intake filter
If manual tranny, inspect bell housing area to make sure no water is up in there
Get oil on pistons asap to prevent rust (ours were rusting by the time we made it across border) -- Specifically Marvel Mystery Oil

 

[JeepKiller]

Having been through something similar albeit much worse, here's what I would do.

Pull your battery
Pull ALL electronics and seal in bags of rice for 3-5 days
Pull all interior (this isn't hard, just start unscrewing stuff)
Pull ALL carpet
Flush all water out of block by hand turning crank
Replace intake filter
If manual tranny, inspect bell housing area to make sure no water is up in there
Get oil on pistons asap to prevent rust (ours were rusting by the time we made it across border) -- Specifically Marvel Mystery Oil

The thing is none of my electronics are wet though.... All the fuses and stuff were bone dry.

 

[absalom]

The thing is none of my electronics are wet though.... All the fuses and stuff were bone dry.

Shocking but awesome! Might want to clean out that interior before you have a fish farm on your hands!

 

[JeepKiller]

Shocking but awesome! Might want to clean out that interior before you have a fish farm on your hands!

But it still won't turn over haha I'm going to get around to cleaning the interior soon, but I need to get it out of the woods before I do that.......

 

[02SE]

The thing is none of my electronics are wet though.... All the fuses and stuff were bone dry.

You stated you had water in the interior. There are Electronics in the interior. ECM, ECU's, Relays, connectors, etc, etc.

As already stated, you need to pull the interior out, disconnect all electrical connectors, and dry everything.

If you do manage to get it running without checking any electrical components that were under, and there is water in those electrical components and/or connectors, eventually those electrical contacts and components will corrode. Then you'll have mystery electrical gremlins to find and diagnose.

You'll want to check all fluids (engine, front diff, rear axle, transfer case, power steering, brake system, and transmission) for water contamination. If any is found, change them several times, to get all of the water out.

Maybe a change in board name to "4RunnerKiller", is appropriate.

:tape:

 

[calimobber]

Hook up jumper cables to a friends running car and crank is for a ling time. maybe you can slowly push out anything and the fan spinning will blow some air over the engine maybe drying out whatever got wet. Just give the starter a rest every now and then. maybe even touch it to see if its getting hot.

I was playing in the water one day and car would not start. tried and tried untill I gave up and came back the next day. by then whatever was wet dried and I was on my way home.

 

[JeepKiller]

You stated you had water in the interior. There are Electronics in the interior. ECM, ECU's, Relays, connectors, etc, etc.

As already stated, you need to pull the interior out, disconnect all electrical connectors, and dry everything.

If you do manage to get it running without checking any electrical components that were under, and there is water in those electrical components and/or connectors, eventually those electrical contacts and components will corrode. Then you'll have mystery electrical gremlins to find and diagnose.

You'll want to check all fluids (engine, front diff, rear axle, transfer case, power steering, brake system, and transmission) for water contamination. If any is found, change them several times, to get all of the water out.

Maybe a change in board name to "4RunnerKiller", is appropriate.

:tape:

You're cute haha, but I'm in the process currently. What electrical components being wet would cause the engine to sound as if it's going to start, but not start?

 

[JWaldz]

[MENTION=115455]JeepKiller[/MENTION]

I had this problem when I sunk mine in a spring a year or so ago. We couldn't rack our brain on why it wasn't starting. Every time we tried starting it it would spit a bunch of water out the exhaust. We finally realized that the muffler had soaked up too much water and turned rock solid on the inside. The was creating too much back pressure. Take the muffler off, she might fire up after a couple tries.

 

[JeepKiller]

[MENTION=115455]JeepKiller[/MENTION]

I had this problem when I sunk mine in a spring a year or so ago. We couldn't rack our brain on why it wasn't starting. Every time we tried starting it it would spit a bunch of water out the exhaust. We finally realized that the muffler had soaked up too much water and turned rock solid on the inside. The was creating too much back pressure. Take the muffler off, she might fire up after a couple tries.

Ok so we took the muffler off and it still wouldn't fire up. My next guess is the ECU, I'm going to pull it and put it in rice.

 

[IBallEngineer]

You're cute haha, but I'm in the process currently. What electrical components being wet would cause the engine to sound as if it's going to start, but not start?

One thing is the crank sensor, of course that DEFINITELY got wet. Coil packs are another thing, although they are higher up. How high was the water inside? if it was below dash level, I don't think anything, but connectors in the kick panels.

Got to make sure that exhaust is clear too!

:faint:

 

[85straight]

Does it make any sound when trying to turn over? A click or a deep clunk? Sounds to me like you hydrolocked your motor, ask me how i know....pull those plugs disconnect the coil pack amd crank it over, dont stand near the engine bay, if there is water in there you will know it quickly

Edit: judging by the picture i would be very suprised if you didnt suck in some water through your intake, even if you were quick about shutting the motor off.

 

[IBallEngineer]

Does it make any sound when trying to turn over? A click or a deep clunk? Sounds to me like you hydrolocked your motor, ask me how i know....pull those plugs disconnect the coil pack amd crank it over, dont stand near the engine bay, if there is water in there you will know it quickly

Edit: judging by the picture i would be very suprised if you didnt suck in some water through your intake, even if you were quick about shutting the motor off.

Did you happen to read where the OP stated he did that already?

Just sayin'

:doh: