What is something you wish you HADN'T done to your 4Runner?

[shrub1]

Each their own. You must haul that stuff often enough it makes sense. I don't pack wood or water for sure... but even then I just don't see it being worth planning for the 2% of the time and ignoring the rest.

I can literally count on 1 hand the number of drives I've taken where the weight was enough to sit the 4runner level with the old stance. I'll drive more times this week and not need a rake than all of the times I have needed it combined.

My 4Runner isn't my DD, so my percentage of time loaded out is 80%.

 

[mrblah]

A thread starts out with good info about upgrades that people regret, then the entitled types and judgemental types jump aboard.... who spew alot of nonsense.

 

[shrub1]

A thread starts out with good info about upgrades that people regret, then the entitled types and judgemental types jump aboard.... who spew alot of nonsense to make a point.

Pot calling the kettle black. Your post added a tremendous amount of value.
You don't like the content, tough shit snowflake.

 

[mrblah]

Pot calling the kettle black. Your post added a tremendous amount of value.
You don't like the content, tough shit snowflake.

very original.... get mad at everything that you don't agree with ..call people names.. You must be someone super important on the interwebs right......... Someone please take away his keyboard, I don't want him to hurt himself.

my post wasnt even directed to you, so go back to your safespace and cry some more son.

gotta love the IG crowd.

 

[shrub1]

my post wasnt even directed to you, so go back to your safespace and cry some more son.

gotta love the IG crowd.

Then stop being passive aggressive and quote the post you are complaining about so it is clear. I am a nobody on the interwebs. So don't concern yourself with that.

IG crowd? I am not even on IG (or any social media for that matter). Gotta love internet tough guys.

Oh, and I'm not your ****ing son.

 

[mrblah]

Then stop being passive aggressive and quote the post you are complaining about so it is clear.

IG crowd? I am not even on IG (or any social media for that matter). Gotta love internet tough guys.

Oh, and I'm not your ****ing son.

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Sure son.

 

[shrub1]

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Sure son.

Like I said..internet tough guy.

 

[mrblah]

Like I said..internet tough guy.

keep on judging son.

 

[shrub1]

keep on judging son.

Tell you what..since your initial post on this thread was not directed at me (your words) why don't you put together a post and address each post you found to be entitled and judgmental (again, your words). How about it?

 

[escapen]

I don’t regret anything, just picked it up on Sunday and I’m loving it!

But really enjoying learning from this thread, so would love to hear from more people. Was considering leveling and now I’m gonna put some more thought into that.


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[PhotogEric]

What trails are you looking to run?

I'm in the phoenix area, so there's a lot of desert type of trails in the area. Sedona has some cool ones too. Plus we're looking at trips to Moab, Colorado, and maybe someday Alaska.

 

[PhotogEric]

All of that besides maybe the Nav issue points to a lack of research. I mean the mpg is notoriously bad, it’s a body on frame truck (KDSS helps), and it’s a relatively old, none SC/Turbo’d V6 mated to a 5 speed transmission.

But if you want to feel better about the purchase, you can drive my old 98 Explorer Sport for a few days. There is no nav, the radio doesn’t light up (you have to wait for a commercial to know what station your on), somehow it feels even more body on frame, it has 60ish less hp, and it has worse mpg and a smaller fuel tank.

Your 4Runner will feel like a Range Rover after that.

I heard the mpg sucked and people were complaining about the power, but I also have the same powertrain in a tacoma, so I figured people were just over exaggerating the issues, as the power feels fine in my taco... The 4runner we bought, we found in flagstaff, which is a lot higher in elevation than phoenix (where I live), so while I did notice the power difference, I chalked some of it up to the altitude. I didn't realize it would be THAT much worse in power than the tacoma, and get worse mpg too.

I bought it used, so I missed most of the stuff I'm complaining about on the test drive, because I was kinda preoccupied with listening for odd noises, and making sure everything worked, ect.

It wasn't until I really started driving it, that these became annoying.. I mean, why isn't there a carseat tether on the 3rd row seats?! lol

I was kind of also under a time crunch to buy it, as I had a full price offer on my car I was selling, plus the 4runner was a really good deal.

Other than the GX, the 4runner is basically in a class by itself for its offload capability and reliability, so even if I knew all of this, I would have probably still went with it. It just kinda sucks, that these are even issues with everything else that's out, and the price point the 4runner is at.

I guess I'm just venting. Thanks for listening. haha.

 

[PhotogEric]

Did you bother driving one before you bought it?

See the above post.

 

[mrblah]

Tell you what..since your initial post on this thread was not directed at me (your words) why don't you put together a post and address each post you found to be entitled and judgmental (again, your words). How about it?

Read the title of the thread, then look for responses not pertaining to the title of the thread. Not hard to do.

For instance, some dood posts he don't like "X" that he did to his car...then some other dood says its the poster's fault because it didn't work out for them but it works for everybody else. To say its the original posters fault that the product didnt work is the judgemental part, to say it worked for me and not the original poster, is the entitled part.

I don't know how to simplify this anymore for you, or you can resort to name calling again, and I will find ways to entertain myself at your expense.

 

[nils.walk]

I kinda wish I'd bought the non-KDSS version, and then made up for what you lose by giving up KDSS with quality aftermarket suspension (tunable low-speed compression).

 

[shrub1]

Read the title of the thread, then look for responses not pertaining to the title of the thread. Not hard to do.

For instance, some dood posts he don't like "X" that he did to his car...then some other dood says its the poster's fault because it didn't work out for them but it works for everybody else. To say its the original posters fault that the product didnt work is the judgemental part, to say it worked for me and not the original poster, is the entitled part.

I don't know how to simplify this anymore for you, or you can resort to name calling again, and I will find ways to entertain myself at your expense.

I'll stop you from embarrassing yourself any further.
No name calling, you are who you are.
In the future should you take umbrage to a certain post, be man enough to confront that user with his/her quote so your thoughts can be communicated clearly.
This is my last post on this matter. Done with you.

 

[nglayton]

No. The rear, or middle, seat is on sliders. You can slide it forward for more cargo space or third row leg room. Or you can slide it rearward for more second (middle) row space. When you slide it all the way to the back you have more legroom than in the two-row model.

So are the sliders for the 1st row seats different also? Just curious. I assumed the poster I quoted was the driver not the passenger of any kind

I'm still not sure how the same length vehicle with two rows of seats has less leg room than a model with three rows. It seems all relative to me and totally depends on how many people and who is riding where.

 

[mrblah]

:violin::violin:

I'll stop you from embarrassing yourself any further.
No name calling, you are who you are.
In the future should you take umbrage to a certain post, be man enough to confront that user with his/her quote so your thoughts can be communicated clearly.
This is my last post on this matter. Done with you.

Sure son, whatever makes you happy.

:violin:

 

[Kenny Powers]

I’m still not certain what the down side of the leveling kit is?

Does it create a problem if you’re hauling a lot of stuff? I’m just trying to make sure I understand the issue. I just got mine leveled and had some bilsteins added. It rides great and I love the look.

Thanks gents and rucas.

 

[shrub1]

I’m still not certain what the down side of the leveling kit is?

Does it create a problem if you’re hauling a lot of stuff? I’m just trying to make sure I understand the issue. I just got mine leveled and had some bilsteins added. It rides great and I love the look.

Thanks gents and rucas.

If you are loaded up with gear in the back and your rig is leveled unloaded, then you will likely end up with your front end higher than the rear. Two things come to mind..headlamps blinding other drivers and that fact you've effectively exhausted much of the rear suspension even before you hit dirt.

A little squat is no big big deal and customary. Starting out level though does put you behind the 8 ball right out of the gate however.