hamburglar210
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Have it, don't mind it. Would prefer the GX for the V8
What is something you wish you HADN'T done to your 4Runner?
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Have it, don't mind it. Would prefer the GX for the V8
I4CUTigers
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I have it as well. Just curious how many are unaware that it has KDSS. The GX/V8 seems a bit overrated.
1) Less parts availability.
2) Worse Fuel Economy.
3) Less dealer support (one lexus dealer within 100 miles of me; I own a Lexus ES, and have to book service 2 weeks in advance)
4) Greater towing capacity, but reduced payload.
Why not just take the price difference a drop a Magnusson in and pull panels and put some dynamat down. More power, torque than the V8, better fuel economy when you aren’t pushing it and a quieter ride, all for a lower price. Best of both worlds imo.
The interior is better in a lexus, but the 4 isn’t bad.
yoyomonkey
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Make it look like a Trd pro.... if I was to do it again, change stock tire and have fun
Ellis_McPickle
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Wish I hadn't sold it. Traded for a GX, traded that for a 3rd gen Tacoma, and I find myself back here again...
Kamalani Mahie
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I didn't drill one hole far enough from the spare tire, so when I went to put a 285 in the stock spare location...it hits the cupholder and pushes it up. Dammit! At least it's only a little bit and the rear hatch still closes without having to remove the cupholder.
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Louise
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But that full time 4x4 though...
mtnbiker49
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The tire size doesn’t matter unless you are worried abought the slight mpg and power loss.
Going E rated tires on the 4runner is a terrible idea. Some people like the rough ride though. You can get the 275/75/17 in load range C or D. I have run 285/75/16 Grabber AT2s and Terra Grapplers in D load range and never had any sidewall puncture issues with all the moderate off roading. One 3-4” nail bent into a U shape and punctured the tread block in the AT2s, but did not cause a leak. I was able to run those down to minimum tread. Doing it again, I’d go C rated if available.
MrGainzz
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You are right. That’s the only reason I’m keeping it since winter lasts 7-8 months in my area.
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That's what I ended up doing: stock size, KO2, load range C. They are a reasonable compromise if you use the 4Runner primarily as a daily driver. They're also a solid choice for winter use. Not as good as a real snow tire, but plenty good enough for getting around town. So, that's what I ran on my previous 4Runner and the current one all year long. No regrets....
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sn_85
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Depends on what type of trails you run and how hard you run it. If you off-road every weekend in the summer then get an E-rated tire.
capulinflicker
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I'd say we run moderate trails, nothing super crazy as the truck is still basically all stock. Some weeks I put 500+ miles of highway driving for work though...
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hamburglar210
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I can't speak to how many are unaware, I honestly didn't know it was basically the Prado before I got my 4Runner so I'm sure a lot about them flies under the radar. If I had known, I could've easily picked one up (used 470, not the 460) for less than my 4Runner so adding a supercharger would tilt the scales more in favor of the GX. There is a big premium on 4Runners in Colorado so it was only slightly more expensive to get a new one over used while GXs, again, fly a bit under the radar.
All that said, if I went back and did it all again, I'd probably still get the 4Runner (and be much better about my mods) but I would definitely keep an eye out for a decent condition GX.
I'm only talking about a used 470 though, I don't like the look of the 460 and would only consider one if I had a lot of extra cash lying around.
CowboyTaco
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This is one of the few areas where I will support plastidip....or paint....or vinyl....whatever. I just can't stand the look of the limited front bumper.
K9 HAULR
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Personally, I wish I hadn't got a TRDP model and modified it. I miss my sun roof. Otherwise - pretty happy with what I've done. Maybe the Pelfrey front bumper - but thats just because I drive thru deer country a lot and think a hoop might save the 4Runner if I ever do "find one" at dusk.
Haydenatx
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Rear OEM springs are about 180lb/in each or 360lb/in total. The rear suspension is a lot softer than the front. So weight in the middle will still tend to drop the rear about twice as much as the front.
Hitching up a 5000lb trailer will sit you almost level on its own.
A group of 4 people plus gear will pretty easily level it out.
Or even a typical setup for a few days off road - and by that I mean more than gravel roads. So you'll typically have
Hand tools 50lbs
A high lift ~ 30lbs
Recover gear ~ 30lb
Air Compressor 20lb
A spare axle assembly ~ 40lb
10 gallons of water 85lbs
Fridge/Cooler and food 100lb (For long trips without any services this can go up - my last trip of 6 days off the grid with 3 people meant my fridge plus a Yeti 45, so more like 200lbs of fridge/ice/food).
Cooking stuff (stove, propane, pots/pans) 30lb
Shovel and axe/chainsaw 20lb
Tent/sleeping bag/pad 25lb
Clothes 20lb / person.
36-12oz beer cans 60lbs
That's 500+lb of gear in the back not including people or any toys you'd want to bring along (cameras, bikes, ?) or people. And the absolute last thing you'd want to do is be riding on the bumps when you're loaded up going off road.
I keep it as light as possible and look pretty seriously at every lb I put in. But it's built that way for a reason that something like a Highlander isn't. If you're going to use it for offroading or extended back country trips, having the ability to haul 5-600lbs without squatting the rear end is a pretty important design factor. Even if 95% of owners never do any of those things. Function over form.
This is my 4runner with 3 people in it and 6 days of gear and stuff for a hard offroad trail.
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Agree with you on this. This is when my truck was stock rear springs, with a 1.75" lift in the front. Just 2 females, one YETI Tundra 45, camping gear for 3 people, this is what the stance looked like WITHOUT me in the truck.
These trucks aren’t meant to have the same gap between tire and fender. If the gaps are even, the frame is negatively raked.
