What would you do with these welds?
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South-O 4RnR
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Looks like a discount haircut from a barbers college...ouch.
2014 Warthog
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Top looks ok, but the bubbles in the welds is BAD.
Yeah those need to be redone.
Yeah those need to be redone.
nevada
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not even a little bit. I would not pay for that weld job.
I am by no means a professional WELDER, in fact im probably not even a good welder, but I wouldn't put down anything that bad, and I certainly wouldn't send it out the door.
grimmjeeper
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Looks like a lot of contamination in those welds. Grind em out and do them again. Those won't hold for long.
GhostRing
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Are the scab plates coated with something? It looks like the weldor (and I use that term loosely) just welded through whatever was on there. Or a major shielding gas issue.
Also, absolutely they should be welded all the way around. The open top will just introduce
moisture and eventual rot of the frame. Unacceptable for someone being too lazy to
get the gun up in there.
Also, absolutely they should be welded all the way around. The open top will just introduce
moisture and eventual rot of the frame. Unacceptable for someone being too lazy to
get the gun up in there.
gm350reratliff
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Those need to be completely ground out and the plates re-prepped. I wouldn't weld completely around the plate. Instead I would stitch weld each plate. Weld the corners and in between the welds but not the whole plate. A long, continuous weld will build up too much heat in the frame and may cause it to be brittle. If you want to seal it, use RTV or silicon after it is cooled on the open areas. BTW, you will be hard pressed to completely seal out rust even doing that and painting. Both the slider plate and frame at and around the welding area needs to be bare metal in order for a proper weld.
If your "welder" is using MIG, it needs to be done inside, with no wind or breeze that can blow the gas from the weld, which could also cause the holes you see.
If your welder can't do it right, you need to find another shop that can. Improper welding can screw up your frame and cause serious damage to your vehicle or others around you.
If your "welder" is using MIG, it needs to be done inside, with no wind or breeze that can blow the gas from the weld, which could also cause the holes you see.
If your welder can't do it right, you need to find another shop that can. Improper welding can screw up your frame and cause serious damage to your vehicle or others around you.
KidVermicious
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I saw what you did there.
Mork, you don't need to make a big deal out of welding the top of the plate, it's the side welds that bear most of the stress. The weldor you took that to is a liar or stupid though, to try and sell those welds to you. Get your money back, grind those off yourself, and take them to somebody else.
BlackWorksInc
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Those welds show signs of severe contamination and undercutting/improper adhesion in most places. If I were to guess, I'd say there was an issue with the shielding gas when they were welding to cause that type of contamination, their machine settings were off, and/or they were rushing the weld job (actually I can tell you that from the first picture given the shape of the weld.)
They need to ground down, the surrounding area needs to be cleaned properly and the welding done properly. I don't know who did your weld job, but I would suspect that they either aren't certified or just don't care.
They need to ground down, the surrounding area needs to be cleaned properly and the welding done properly. I don't know who did your weld job, but I would suspect that they either aren't certified or just don't care.
MORK
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I am struggling with sharing the shops name with you guys because he literally lives just a few blocks down the street. If anyone is evaluating shops in the colorado area and wants to message me though - I will let you know. I only even let him do it because I only have an arc welder and I know that I wouldn't have done it perfectly.
After going back as forth about this with him, he refused to grind out the welds and re-do them. He would only finish welding the rest and "go over" the bad ones. i don't understand his decision on this at all - any shop claiming to do any sort of fabrication would refuse this work. I did my best to remain calm, if not a little ignorant and give him the chance to make it right. Too bad.
So, I'm getting it done right and going where I should have gone in the first place. I'll post up the results.
After going back as forth about this with him, he refused to grind out the welds and re-do them. He would only finish welding the rest and "go over" the bad ones. i don't understand his decision on this at all - any shop claiming to do any sort of fabrication would refuse this work. I did my best to remain calm, if not a little ignorant and give him the chance to make it right. Too bad.
So, I'm getting it done right and going where I should have gone in the first place. I'll post up the results.
KidVermicious
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Why? You haven't misrepresented him. If he stands behind his welds, he ought to be happy to have you post pictures of his work. And if he happens to come onto the board and see this thread, maybe it'll wake him up.
I'd be for letting other forum members know who to avoid, but it's your call.
