What would you do with these welds?

[Cheers!]

I would ask for your money back. Then take your 4runner to a local technical college and find who is the best of the class and pay him/her to fix it.

I use to take TIG welding classes at a local college for fun and people would come to the class and ask for something to be done. I would be that someone and take quick cash jobs.

 

[MORK]

Why? You haven't misrepresented him. If he stands behind his welds, he ought to be happy to have you post pictures of his work. And if he happens to come onto the board and see this thread, maybe it'll wake him up.

I'd be for letting other forum members know who to avoid, but it's your call.

Like I said earlier - PM me and I will be happy to let you know who hacked this up. I don't want to be "that guy" starting a flame fest online.

That being said - he also was off about an inch on the drivers side too far forward and it hit the tire wheeling the other day. I'm fairly pissed at the non-existent attention to detail.

I'm actually typing this at Addicted Offroad while they are fixing the hack job. Scotty and his team here are doing a fantastic job turning this into something that I can be happy with.

I will post up the pics later of all the work that had to be done because of a lazy local shop.

 

[KidVermicious]

Nice. Scotty is where I would have taken it in the first place. :thumb:

 

[poser]

I'll echo what others have said: looks like the gas was off, or he ran out, or he was welding outside with MIG and it was super windy.
Either way I would not trust that for anything that might bare even a little weight.
Would it be ok for a BBQ pit that just going to get smoothed down and painted, sure, but if I laid down those welds (even on a BBQ pit) I'd redo them.

Get your money back or have them redo it.

 

[Robmills72]

holy under cut/cold lap batman. major major screw up. if you did these welds grind them down, do a root and cover pass with better air coverage and arc length. if you paid money for these, you were pretty much robbed. you have got to fill the joint with sliders as much as you can, the last thing you want is for your sliders to not slide and bend into your doors. as someone had mentioned earlier I would not worry about the top, you probably cant get the gun up there even if you tried. I did my sliders with a $150 flux core machine with a 20% duty cycle in my driveway, while I had to sit on it for a while so that it would get hot enough to form a puddle, they were a lot deeper penetrated that these. (P.S. never buy a $150 welder because you WILL get what you pay for)

 

[MORK]

Lets do a little comparison here.

Weld from a Denver area Toyota "shop" that claims to fabricate and build crawlers:

Welds from Addicted Offroad after they fully ground out all of the hack job work:

I can't say enough good things about Scotty and his team over there. All of the plates are fully welded, consistent, and defect-free. There is such a difference between a real fab shop / welder and someone who claims that they can weld.

Here is the slider that was rubbing as well. The local "shop" mounted it about an inch too far forward and it contacted the slider at full stuff. It really baffles me that the guy didn't even bother to measure.

To fix this, the guys at Addicted cut the slider off, fully ground down and fixed the old welds, ground the plates smooth, added even more mounting plate for the new location, sleeved the slider, and fully welded the sleeve and remounted the slider to the plate. This was a crazy amount of work just because I wanted to save myself the drive and save a few buck having that local "shop" do them.

Needless to say, but I sure won't be making that mistake again.

 

[MORK]

Get your money back or have them redo it.

And I tried that route. He said that all he was willing to do was weld the tops and go over the old welds.

Oh well, lesson learned. All in all, the end result is good, but only because I cut ties and had a real fab shop fix it.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

And I tried that route. He said that all he was willing to do was weld the tops and go over the old welds.

Oh well, lesson learned. All in all, the end result is good, but only because I cut ties and had a real fab shop fix it.

Honestly at that point I would have probably mentioned about having it structrually tested and if it passes then I wouldn't be serving him for an unsafe welding job. :thumb:

 

[MORK]

Honestly at that point I would have probably mentioned about having it structrually tested and if it passes then I wouldn't be serving him for an unsafe welding job. :thumb:

Im having a hard time reading this sentence.

However, even if by some miracle it passed some structural test it does not address that he never measured them and mounted the where one clearly hit the tire.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

Im having a hard time reading this sentence.

However, even if by some miracle it passed some structural test it does not address that he never measured them and mounted the where one clearly hit the tire.

It was meant basically as a "well if you think that's a good enough job, let's put it to the test or I'll be serving you for small claims."

But yeah, the craftsmanship is beyond piss poor.

 

[MORK]

Handing him the bill to fix it would have been fun too.

 

[Brique]

If I'd been screwed over that bad and then the guy refused to refund my money, I'd be telling anyone who'd listen what happened and posting pics everwhere i could.

Up to you if course, but personally I'd make the job cost him ten times what he f^$#@d me out of in lost business.

 

[KidVermicious]

Show your guy this link: Welding For Dummies Cheat Sheet - For Dummies

Tell him to pay close attention to the top article, "Fixing Problems Related To Weld Porosity".

 

[TxBigRed]

Hey, you gave him a chance to correct his f__k up. Haul his ass to court and make him pay what it cost you to fix his mistake. No excuse for that shoddy work.

 

[xcmtb83]

Show your guy this link: Welding For Dummies Cheat Sheet - For Dummies

Tell him to pay close attention to the top article, "Fixing Problems Related To Weld Porosity".

Hey! I know Steve the author of that book! haha He is teaching a class that my employer is paying for me to take.

Now back to our regularly scheduled broadcast.

 

[MORK]

If I'd been screwed over that bad and then the guy refused to refund my money, I'd be telling anyone who'd listen what happened and posting pics everwhere i could.

Up to you if course, but personally I'd make the job cost him ten times what he f^$#@d me out of in lost business.

If this "shop" wasn't just down the way from my house, I would have no problem smearing him all over. I don't like the whole interwebs tough guy thing though. I already told him that he screwed up, he is never getting my business, and I will freely PM anyone who it is. Scotty at Addicted Offroad did such a good job fixing this and getting it done right, that I am happy now.

I'm sure that there are a few local shops that are good, but if you live in Colorado, just take it to Addicted up front. (Plus, if you are local, you get to look at the buggy he is building which looks fantastic!)

 

[MORK]

Also - here is one of the messages from him defending his work... (I also hate doing any business with texts - he never answered the phone)

 

[slapdappy]

if you paid with a credit card you can dispute the charges. if needed, show them pics of your welds vs proper welds and supporting opinion of certified welder.

 

[TCMach]

Scotty at Addicted Offroad did such a good job fixing this and getting it done right, that I am happy now.

I'm sure that there are a few local shops that are good, but if you live in Colorado, just take it to Addicted up front. (Plus, if you are local, you get to look at the buggy he is building which looks fantastic!)

Might have seen you haha. I live maybe 5 minutes from Addicted, those guys are heroes when it comes to building anything with a hint of offroad.

Glad you got this fixed up, those welds would have caused you issues

 

[Titanpat57]

that looks like something I'd do...:rockon:

but I got a bit better over the years, but yea, horseshi t for sure..

I never really did get good at welding, but boy oh boy, did I get good at grinding..