Who Stores their T4R through the winter...?

TOY2G

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I moved from Texas so I have a massive fear of the rust here in Ohio. So much that I had to buy local vehicles here just to drive in the winter. So my 5th gens get parked all winter in my shop and don't get to come out until the rain has washed away some of the salt.

Do i share this fear of salt with anyone else?




today is the day for mine, they are all tucked in, tires over inflated, half a tank with Sta-bil in the tank, and box of baking soda in the cabin. See you in March....
 
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4Runners are made for winter. I had my 4th gen for 11 years of salty NY winters and it had zero rust on the body. Sure, some surface rust on the undercarriage, but nothing to worry about at all. The only real rust on my 4Runner was on the shocks, believe it or not.

Anyway, undercarriage rust is unavoidable if you drive in the snowbelt where salt is used on the roads. It's really nothing to worry about though.
 
4Runners are made for winter. I had my 4th gen for 11 years of salty NY winters and it had zero rust on the body. Sure, some surface rust on the undercarriage, but nothing to worry about at all. The only real rust on my 4Runner was on the shocks, believe it or not.

Anyway, undercarriage rust is unavoidable if you drive in the snowbelt where salt is used on the roads. It's really nothing to worry about though.

You may as well just told me there is no reason to be afraid of clowns. lol

fact is, when I sell all the metal parts that are bolted to my truck and my truck is my advertising piece, I cannot afford to even have surface rust. FWIW, the Shrockworks rocker trim is already rusted so bad the powder coating is coming off.... this chemical they use on the road here is evil.
 
I don't know how to reply to this. I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry...

I think most people here love the idea of blasting through the worst of winter storms with their 4Runners....but others (like the OP) are using their vehicle as a showpiece and therefore want it to stay as pristine as possible forever.

For me, the whole idea of getting a 4Runner in the first place was for NY winters. I keep my CAR cozy in the garage during the winter and keep the 4Runner plowing through the winter weather.
 
Well Hell, I didn't see the pic when I viewed the thread earlier today.

If mine looked as nice as those, maybe I'd mothball it too!

I understand both sides of the fence, whatever makes you happy, it's all good in the end.
 
I try to keep my 4runner and ML out of the salt as much as possible, and use the truck more but both inevitably get used in winter and washed ASAP after.

Your rigs do look sick though.... like 2 hibernating bears.
 
...But if you store it through the winter... then what do you go snow wheelin in ? :lookout:
 
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Well, of course, that is not going to make a lot of sense to those of us who LOVE driving in Winter, but I guess I can allow for a difference of opinion. I just hope you don't get into trouble driving an inferior vehicle in winter, while your two snow beasts are sleeping in the garage, when they could be protecting you on the icy roads!
On your method of winter storage - I get the Sta-bil, but why a half tank of gas? That translates into a half tank of condensation. Seems to me, conventional wisdom is in favour of a FULL tank of gas. That way, there is no air space at the top for condensation to form.
Also, we usually put 'em up on blocks for storage - take the weight off the suspension and the tires.
Do you do anything to discourage the mice? My FJ twice had the knock sensor harness destroyed by mice. It seems they like the soy-based insulation Toyota was using on the wiring. (The Honda Piot was apparently even worse in this regard!)
Bet you're happy to be back in your Runner come spring!
 
you're a smart man to store them. Salt WILL destroy them.
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If they are showpieces meant for selling parts off of, then yes that is acceptable, however I'm assuming the same standards apply to mudding/off roading with them. Essentially they are driven on road only as an advertising piece.

If they are a privately owned vehicle they should be driven in the snow but properly maintained (rinsed weekly, undercoating, etc...) during the winter months while salt is on the road.

I drove my 4runner for years in the salt and snow and never had any rust issues. I would rinse it off weekly and get underneath in one of the DIY car wash bays... It was a 3rd gen and had no rust on the bumpers or anything. Held up very well.
 
I understand if they are show/advertising/business exhibits. That is what makes you money. I don't like clowns either.
 
I didn't look at it as 'snow or show', I figured they were for 4-wheeling on dry desert trails in Texas where the OP is from.
 
I think most people here love the idea of blasting through the worst of winter storms with their 4Runners....but others (like the OP) are using their vehicle as a showpiece and therefore want it to stay as pristine as possible forever.

For me, the whole idea of getting a 4Runner in the first place was for NY winters. I keep my CAR cozy in the garage during the winter and keep the 4Runner plowing through the winter weather.

I don't need them to be perfect forever, both have been wheeled and both have a dents and sings from it.... But the salt and de-ice chemical they use here are nutz, and I cannot stand seeing all these rust buckets up here. When we go to the few Toyota event we do every year, I don't want the suspension and armor all rusted up when people try to look at it...rock marks, dents, gouges, even a little packed dirt is not an issue, but rust....eeeewwwwww

Well Hell, I didn't see the pic when I viewed the thread earlier today.

If mine looked as nice as those, maybe I'd mothball it too!

I understand both sides of the fence, whatever makes you happy, it's all good in the end.

I have 3 sons, so they cannot look new forever (or even a week), but I have the ability to keep them in one piece, so I try. I idid the sma ewith both of my 4th gens here....

I try to keep my 4runner and ML out of the salt as much as possible, and use the truck more but both inevitably get used in winter and washed ASAP after.

Your rigs do look sick though.... like 2 hibernating bears.

I kept yours in the heated warehouse last year, it was a little spoiled but it deserved it. I miss it every time I smash the skinny pedal in my 5th gens...

Sweet looking shop! What type of insulation do you have?

Poly-encapsulated insulation on the walls and 2" blue hard foam on the ceilings.


...But if you store it through the winter... then what do you go snow wheelin in ? :lookout:

I have 3 other Toyota 4x4s that we drive, my wife drives the 3rd gen, adn I drive the Tundra mostly... I do have to admit, last winter I ran into a guy driving a pretty sweet Xtera and he invited me down by trapper johns to wheel in the snow. So we took the SR5 out for the day to play in the snow..... then washed it twice and stored it back in the warehouse.... I think this is what caused the rocker trim to rust on me...

Well, of course, that is not going to make a lot of sense to those of us who LOVE driving in Winter, but I guess I can allow for a difference of opinion. I just hope you don't get into trouble driving an inferior vehicle in winter, while your two snow beasts are sleeping in the garage, when they could be protecting you on the icy roads!
On your method of winter storage - I get the Sta-bil, but why a half tank of gas? That translates into a half tank of condensation. Seems to me, conventional wisdom is in favour of a FULL tank of gas. That way, there is no air space at the top for condensation to form.
Also, we usually put 'em up on blocks for storage - take the weight off the suspension and the tires.
Do you do anything to discourage the mice? My FJ twice had the knock sensor harness destroyed by mice. It seems they like the soy-based insulation Toyota was using on the wiring. (The Honda Piot was apparently even worse in this regard!)
Bet you're happy to be back in your Runner come spring!

You have given me something to think about, Having never stored a vehicle before last winter, I am shooting from the hip here. A guy here told me that you do half a tank, that way when you take it out of storage, you can go fill it up with fresh gas and dilute the older stuff. Your point does however seem to hold water (pun intended). I did not put it on blocks, I suspect at some point during the winter I will need one or both of the trucks out of the shop for one reason or another so I want them easy to move. You have me loosing sleep about the mice now.

You need a good anti rust treatment and your good to go

Ziebart is up here, but is a nasty coating that will render the underside of my vehicle ugly as a if it were rusted. I am working with a company in TX to bring a new product to the vehicle market that is clear, thin a s spray paint, chemically bonded to most surfaces and is extremely hydrophobic. It may change the game for me in the future. So far the main limitation is heat, It can only withstand roughly 175 degrees, leaving areas around exhaust manifold and pipes prone to rust.


For now, we keep storing them until I find a better solution, or we replace them with the "6th gen" and these become our winter vehicles.
 
That is part of the reason I'll be moving someday, more than likely to a warmer climate. A good undercoating every year will help preserve the vehicle... key word is help... It won't stop the rust, it will only slow it. The previous owner of my T4R undercoated it so I have little rust on it. Only a little surface rust underneath and some on the hatch that I've fixed. The only true cure is moving away from the salt belt.

I'm not going to store it, though. I bought the 4Runner for that exact reason... a little more capability
 

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