who wants to go wheeling?
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lofreqjeff
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That Stuck pic is awesome - it takes skills to get hung up like that 
I don't care where we go, I just want to get out. I'm not a big fan of Sycamore much either; too much traffic, too many inexperienced people, too many quads, too much drinking. As far as Butcher Jones goes, I feel similar about that area, BUT there are 5 coves to explore out there and I know how to get to them all. Its the first 2 that are usually the trouble spots. With the group we had last week and the couple of other friends of mine that would like to come out, I don't see getting to cove 3,4 or 5 impossible for anyone. Generally there isn't many people there, just boaters, and they don't usually stay very long. And the only reason I mention BJ as a possible destination is that its supposed to be hot hot hot this weekend and cooling off in the lake is always a good option.
I have GPS tracks for Ajax Mine trail where we could meet up at the Cottonwood Canyon entrance (where we aired up last week) then head in, check out an Amethyst mine & the remnants of the the Ajax Mine Processing center, then take Telegraph trail up and over near Picket Post Mtn and the trail finally ends in Superior. My GPS says its 20 miles from Cottonwood Canyon to Superior and took us 4 1/2 hours but I think that includes an hour or so at the Amethyst Mine
Or, we could go check out Raymert Mine & the Sugar Shack like we discussed. We could either start at Cottonwood and run it north to the 60, or vice-versa. I have gone in from the 60 but not from Cottonwood, but I have the GPS tracks that we can follow from either direction. This is not an overly challenging route, but there are some steep hill climbs like last week - that last little bit of the trail last week actually was Ajax Mine Trail that we took to Cottonwood Canyon after we turned around due to the locked gate.
What does ya'll think?
I don't care where we go, I just want to get out. I'm not a big fan of Sycamore much either; too much traffic, too many inexperienced people, too many quads, too much drinking. As far as Butcher Jones goes, I feel similar about that area, BUT there are 5 coves to explore out there and I know how to get to them all. Its the first 2 that are usually the trouble spots. With the group we had last week and the couple of other friends of mine that would like to come out, I don't see getting to cove 3,4 or 5 impossible for anyone. Generally there isn't many people there, just boaters, and they don't usually stay very long. And the only reason I mention BJ as a possible destination is that its supposed to be hot hot hot this weekend and cooling off in the lake is always a good option.
I have GPS tracks for Ajax Mine trail where we could meet up at the Cottonwood Canyon entrance (where we aired up last week) then head in, check out an Amethyst mine & the remnants of the the Ajax Mine Processing center, then take Telegraph trail up and over near Picket Post Mtn and the trail finally ends in Superior. My GPS says its 20 miles from Cottonwood Canyon to Superior and took us 4 1/2 hours but I think that includes an hour or so at the Amethyst Mine
Or, we could go check out Raymert Mine & the Sugar Shack like we discussed. We could either start at Cottonwood and run it north to the 60, or vice-versa. I have gone in from the 60 but not from Cottonwood, but I have the GPS tracks that we can follow from either direction. This is not an overly challenging route, but there are some steep hill climbs like last week - that last little bit of the trail last week actually was Ajax Mine Trail that we took to Cottonwood Canyon after we turned around due to the locked gate.
What does ya'll think?
4Running Daily
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Is Saturday an option for anyone? Sunday will be reserved for cramming for finals the following week.
AZ4Running
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Yeah sugar shack and mine sounds fun but cool off at tbe lake sounds good to. Im down for either one. Sunday is the plan. I work saturdays.
lofreqjeff
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We can do sugar shack/raymert mine. I forgot another potential trail that I've mentioned before: Montana Mountain which is just north of the 60 and less than a mile east of the 79. Its a beautiful trail and not super challenging when taking it from the west to east. On the backside of the mountain, heading down, there are some pretty sharp switchbacks that could be difficult going up with open diffs. Also, towards the bottom of the backside there is a cool little stone cabin ruin. So, there's another option. I believe earlier in this thread I put up some pics of both Sugar Shack/Raymert and Montana Mountain.
Lets come to a mutual agreement and get out there for a good time!
Lets come to a mutual agreement and get out there for a good time!
D Farms
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yeah id like to go, ill have to see what happens though, my mom and grandma are coming in on saturday so i have no idea if they want to come with me or not.
also i uploaded the waterfall crawl up to youtube upside down for everyone
https://youtu.be/SF42xJB9sec
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPxWeJpbP8FpO6OfxOGrVAh_aapAxC7J5
also i uploaded the waterfall crawl up to youtube upside down for everyone
https://youtu.be/SF42xJB9sec
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPxWeJpbP8FpO6OfxOGrVAh_aapAxC7J5
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AZBub
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Heck I'm down to run sugar shack/raymert mine and Montana Mountain the same day. Don't mind the practice....on mild to moderate trails.
I think we will have many hotter days ahead to hit up those coves around butcher jones.
PS: nice job on the upside down vid Farms LOL
I think we will have many hotter days ahead to hit up those coves around butcher jones.
PS: nice job on the upside down vid Farms LOL
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lofreqjeff
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Montana Mtn is a looong trail, it would probably too much to do both in 1 day unless we got started pretty early and did some parts of the trails at night.
So, if we're going to do Raymert/Sugar Shack, I'd like to start off the 60 and finish at Cottonwood Canyon since I know that way and have done that way before. I'll get a map for the meet up spot, but its going g to be at Mineral Mtn Rd about a miles or so east of the 79 on the south side of the 60. There is an obvious turn off and a decent size staging area right off the 60.
So, if we're going to do Raymert/Sugar Shack, I'd like to start off the 60 and finish at Cottonwood Canyon since I know that way and have done that way before. I'll get a map for the meet up spot, but its going g to be at Mineral Mtn Rd about a miles or so east of the 79 on the south side of the 60. There is an obvious turn off and a decent size staging area right off the 60.
AZ4Running
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Ok sugar shack, lets do it. Who is in for this run?
lofreqjeff
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OK, new to the 4Runner crowd. Just traded the FJC for a '15 TE. I am sure that I don't need to ask, but may the 4 of us join the expedition on Sunday? Me, my two teenage girls and one "BF" that may not come back with us. (What happens on the trail, stays on the trail, right?) ;-) My vehicle is stock other than beefier tires, and I am hoping to avoid pinstriping. Am I with the right tour?
NZDZRT
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AZ4Running
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You are welcome to come along but you can be scared of Arizona pin striping. Shitulbufout anyways lol.
lofreqjeff
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OK, new to the 4Runner crowd. Just traded the FJC for a '15 TE. I am sure that I don't need to ask, but may the 4 of us join the expedition on Sunday? Me, my two teenage girls and one "BF" that may not come back with us. (What happens on the trail, stays on the trail, right?) ;-) My vehicle is stock other than beefier tires, and I am hoping to avoid pinstriping. Am I with the right tour?
NZDZRT
Definitely! The more Toyotas the better..... I can't say there won't be chances of pinstriping but we can do our best to avoid as much as we can.
Looking forward to meeting more Toyota people
lofreqjeff
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Roll call! Who's coming?
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D_Farms - Tentative
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AZ4Running
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Rsvp check in 9:30 tomorrow at US 60 and Mineral Mountain, Az4running+1. Just checked over my rig and im ready to roll tomorrow. See you guys then.
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