Who's the next president?

Denio said:

That's true of individual polls, but people have developed algorithms to weight various polls properly and come to a likely forecast by summing them all together.

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SonRunner said:
No, they're not but since you'd don't understand what the electoral vote system is you probably wouldn't understand.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Tally up the electoral votes and tell me its close.

Oh no, i understand electoral vote system...but you said POLLS. Are you changing your mind now??

We will just have to see 11/4/08.
 
Linky: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/ms..._comments_plays_audio_from_san_francisco_not/

You can see how MSNBC is so full of it in their coverage of the Biden's Freudian slip...blatantly lied in support of Obama/Biden. :(

A poster wrote this and it caught my eyes:

"My concern is that since they have been recently debriefed, I just worry that Joe heard something important. You know he is like a little kid with a secret. He is the type who wants to impress everyone, the kind of guy who feels cool when he can share his secret. I can
 
Republicans usually are scared... hence the politics of fear.

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SonRunner said:
No, I'm just not afraid of terrorists.

That is a weak response...yeah, ok. I don't think that is the point, but as always, you manage to pull some weak convoluted logic over us.... :p
 
Thai said:
Why are you even voting for someone like Obama????

I notice that SonRunner and RonM are especially quiet on this Biden speech. Hell, even CNN is wondering!!! (Oh yeah, as you all can read, the article posted above is by ABC NEWS.) [/B]

Thai i think hot air kind of spun that story. Biden has obvious differences with Obama. That is a fact. But you know what, that's whats great about the duo. If you had two people with the exact same ideology it would be stupid. Biden is a balance to Obama, although they disagree on many issues, they are able to appeal to a wider audience. Hopefully with Biden's balance, Obama will "see" the other side on the controversial issues. Palin on the other hand is a damn parrot for John McCain. She agrees with absolutely everything he says, despite any of her actual beliefs. From Biden's speech i don't see anything that question's Obama's readiness. Would you agree?

Also it is unfair to ask how could you vote for Obama. Everyone is human Thai, they are only voting for the person that will help them out the most, be it family or whatever.

SonRunner said:
Wow, that's hilarious. You come up with that on your own?

haha

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I understand where you are going with this but it's unfair to call out McCain on this. Both candidates say they can 'relate' to the average american, but they can't. It's one of those things that just sounds good on TV.

On a lighter note, Obama and McCain in a dance-off. McCain's got some moves lol
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ALt4r said:
Palin on the other hand is a damn parrot for John McCain. She agrees with absolutely everything he says, despite any of her actual beliefs.

From Biden's speech i don't see anything that question's Obama's readiness. Would you agree?

Actually, a few pages back, we were talking about Palin disagreeing with McCain on a few issues...we were wondering if Palin was aiming for 2012 elections.

I don't agree...Biden's speech clearly showed that there will be major international issues with Obama in his first 6 months of office...he is sure of it! And that Obama will make decisions that are UNpopular. And then he compared it to what Kennedy experienced in his early term...and by all measures, Kennedy foreign policy sucked...sucked really bad! And, in particular, Kennedy's early foreign policy confrontation(s) were obvious diasasters! I don't see where Biden's speech could be anymore obvious! :(
 
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Didn't Biden say that Obama would be tested like JFK? He never said he would act in the same way as JFK. JFK actually kept his cool during intense foreign policy endeavors like the Cuban Missle crisis. It doesn't matter whose fault it was that started it because it came down to key decisions JFK and his advisers made and we barely made it.
I don't know Thai, it would be downright stupid for Biden to do something to put down Obama. Honestly, Biden has been in the game a long time, he knows how to succeed as a politician. Then again I used to think the same for McCain until he picked Palin for VP.

Thai said:
Actually, a few pages back, we were talking about Palin disagreeing with McCain on a few issues...we were wondering if Palin was aiming for 2012 elections.
I think i said that. I meant she is going against some things she believes in just to support McCain. Atleast that's how i see it. During interviews her answer is always i support whatever McCain wants to do. Lol palin is not aiming for 2012, she can barely run Alaska which is smaller than Houston, TX in population...do you guys feel McCain's age is an issue? It's joked about so often that i don't know anymore.
 
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I simply am enjoying watching other people argue for a change and it doesn't really matter to me now since I know Obama will win this unless the GOP makes a mockery of the voting system and tries some underhanded garbage to pull a win out since it's obvious Palin and McCain aren't even on the same page as of late.
McCain has been flip flopping on a few key things as of late too;he really doesn't know how to deal with the economic situation and it's showing by now going back to the Ayers situation and really I think most americans don't care about that but it's a last ditch effort by the Republicans to try to win.
 
ALt4r said:
do you guys feel McCain's age is an issue? It's joked about so often that i don't know anymore.

Yeah, and it's even more of an issue because he has Palin as his backup. She is completely unqualified to be President, hence her high negatives in recent polling. She's more of a drag than Bush on the McCain campaign which is interesting to consider. Bush is pretty hard to beat as being unfavorable but she managed to do it...
 

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