Who's the next president?

RonMAIDEN said:
I simply am enjoying watching other people argue for a change and it doesn't really matter to me now since I know Obama will win this unless the GOP makes a mockery of the voting system and tries some underhanded garbage to pull a win out since it's obvious Palin and McCain aren't even on the same page as of late.
McCain has been flip flopping on a few key things as of late too;he really doesn't know how to deal with the economic situation and it's showing by now going back to the Ayers situation and really I think most americans don't care about that but it's a last ditch effort by the Republicans to try to win.

Flip flopping? :confused:

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Oh...the BS between you and RonM!!! Obama is a straight shooter, right??? That is the biggest joke ever!! :p

It clearly shows that both you are indeed Obamasexual!! Blind to the very end! :(
 
RonMAIDEN said:
it's obvious Palin and McCain aren't even on the same page as of late.

Oh yeah, and Biden and Obama has??? Are you even looking at the news lately??? Biden just insulted Obama in public!

BTW, ronM, i see that you are awefully quiet these days on the negative campaign moaning that you did earlier in this thread! It is pretty damn clear who is being negative on TV ads!! 4:1 as a matter of FACT.

Oh, i see that you are also quiet about Biden's BIG insult of Obama's foreign readiness!
 
SonRunner said:
Flip flopping? :confused:

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Yeah, the video is from who?? Oh yeah, MSNBC...isn't that the channel that OPENLY ADMITTED that they are favoring one side in this election?? How shameful is that?!! They lie blatantly and can't even get their story straight!!!

Remember this one posted earlier??
Thai said:
Linky: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/ms..._comments_plays_audio_from_san_francisco_not/

You can see how MSNBC is so full of it in their coverage of the Biden's Freudian slip...blatantly lied in support of Obama/Biden. :(

MSNBC...the biggest joke network "news" network! Hell, i even like Communist News Network better...and that is saying a lot!! :bash:
 
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Thai said:
Oh yeah, and Biden and Obama has??? Are you even looking at the news lately??? Biden just insulted Obama in public!

BTW, ronM, i see that you are awefully quiet these days on the negative campaign moaning that you did earlier in this thread! It is pretty damn clear who is being negative on TV ads!! 4:1 as a matter of FACT.

Oh, i see that you are also quiet about Biden's BIG insult of Obama's foreign readiness!

McCain ads are entirely, 100%, negative. Obama was shown earlier in the cycle that he has no choice but to fight fire with fire.

Obama is able to run more ads because has more supporters, more donors, and hence more money.
 
Thai said:



MSNBC...the biggest joke network "news" network! Hell, i even like Communist News Network better...and that is saying a lot!! :bash:

Yeah, we already know what "news" channel you're watching. :lmao:

You've already proven you like to make sweeping generalizations about just about anything. So let's see if you can find something in that video that isn't true. You can't.
 
Thai said:

MSNBC...the biggest joke network "news" network! Hell, i even like Communist News Network better...and that is saying a lot!! :bash:
I have to admit i don't watch msnbc, but i don't like any news network that has a blatant bias (for example fox news and possibly msnbc). But, you think CNN is too liberal? CNN may not be a great news source, but i don't see any bias at all. For example the other day i saw three McCain supporters on the show for about thirty minutes praising McCain. But they will also air the same for Obama. A lot of this is perception, we see what we want to see. Thai, I respect your vote for John McCain, but please don't tell me you think Fox News is a credible source. CNN i can see being debatable, but fox is in a league all its own. They had one 'poll' at a restaurant where the reporter asks how many are voting for McCain (1 person raises his hand, then lowers it). Then, he asks who is voting for Obama (The rest of the customers raise their hand, an old lady raises two hands). The reporter proceeds to say "as you can see it's pretty split". I had heard fox news was very conservative before, but that specific report was just disgusting.
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edit: Just researched a little about msnbc. Thai you are right, they have a pretty obvious liberal bias.
 
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SonRunner said:
Yeah, we already know what "news" channel you're watching. :lmao:

You've already proven you like to make sweeping generalizations about just about anything. So let's see if you can find something in that video that isn't true. You can't.

Me generalization?? At least, i did not pull a "Biden" and claim that people making over $250k don't care about money! Oh yeah, that is not only a generalization, but an ignorant one! :p

ALt4r said:
edit: Just researched a little about msnbc. Thai you are right, they have a pretty obvious liberal bias.

ALt4r, i am fully aware that FOX is more one sided...NEVER said otherwise, nor NEVER quoted them nor post videos of them. That would be ignorant on my part.

But, i must disagree with you...ALL news network is bias to one side...part of human nature. There is a reason why CNN is also known as the "communist news network"...you think that it got this name for being fair??? I will admit that they are less blatantly bias than MSNBC, but that is not saying much unfortunately.

I am glad that you see the bias in MSNBC...how can you not?? The fact that SonRunner keeps on posting these videos proves that he is not even close to being open-minded...nor even try to open his minds. Thus, Obamasexual is a good term. :D
 
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Thai said:
Me generalization?? At least, i did not pull a "Biden" and claim that people making over $250k don't care about money! Oh yeah, that is not only a generalization, but an ignorant one! :p

blah blah blah ...


Did you find anything untrue in the video i posted?
 
Thai,why are you always on the attack? Give me some reasons why Mccain is so much better instead of why Obama is bad. I'm not so much pro-Obama as I'm anti-Republican this time around (and for the last 3 elections) and my job situation would be benefitted more if Obama wins so it comes down to what's best for me.

Also why is it Palin seems to be running a different campaign that McCain since she contradicts what Mccain says and plans to do;that seems like a bad thing for the President and the VP to be going in different directions.

I think Palin and the Republicans know they aren't going to win and she's setting herself up for '12.

When the Republicans are still trying to connect Obama once again with terrorism only 11 days away it shows they really don't have anything else.

So,when Obama is president are you going to hide in a hole for 4 years? :p

I just think this country needs a very different direction to go since I don't think we can go anywhere but up and with Obama we may see change much quicker and for the better instead of the Republicans dragging their feet on issues since change with Republicans comes slow thus the label conservatists. Plus we need to get out of Iraq and McCain is going to drag his feet on that too and Palin is so not ready to be a heartbeat away form the presidency,she's way to right wing for me.

I'm not so anti-republican since I think Colin Powell should run someday since he seems like a straight forward member of the GOP but even with him supporting Obama really says something.

Thai,you can keep on posting the links you do and but you'll never get me to vote for McCain at this point but I do feel sorry for him since he's been shoved around and forced to run a type of campaign he didn't want to run by the GOP.
 
ALt4r said:
They had one 'poll' at a restaurant where the reporter asks how many are voting for McCain (1 person raises his hand, then lowers it). Then, he asks who is voting for Obama (The rest of the customers raise their hand, an old lady raises two hands). The reporter proceeds to say "as you can see it's pretty split". I had heard fox news was very conservative before, but that specific report was just disgusting.


/B]


Love that video. Classic!
 
RonMAIDEN said:
I'm not so much pro-Obama as I'm anti-Republican this time around (and for the last 3 elections)

I'm not so anti-republican since I think Colin Powell should run someday

So,when Obama is president are you going to hide in a hole for 4 years? :p

my job situation would be benefitted more if Obama wins so it comes down to what's best for me.

Thai,you can keep on posting the links you do and but you'll never get me to vote for McCain at this point

Hmmm, so, are you anti-Republican or not??!! I am confused!! Are you indecisive??? :confused:

Is Palin saying anything against McCain that is as bad as what Biden said about Obama??!! I think not! Not even close!

Like SonRunner said, he is not afraid of terrorists! Likewise, i am not afraid of Obama! :D

It is pretty darn clear that you are not an "independent" and one of Obamasexual lovers.

As for you voting for Obama due to your job/financial situation, i have no beef with that. I am the same way...and this is why i am voting for McCain. Unlike SonRunner, you will NEVER catch me trying to change your vote because i think that i know YOUR home situaton better than you! That would be very ignorant of me!
 
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Thai said:
Hmmm, so, are you anti-Republican or not??!! I am confused!! Are you indecisive??? :confused:

Is Palin saying anything against McCain that is as bad as what Biden said about Obama??!! I think not!

Like SonRunner said, he is not afraid of terrorists! Likewise, i am not afraid of Obama! :D

It is pretty darn clear that you are not an "independent" and one of Obamasexual lovers.

As for you voting for Obama due to your job/financial situation, i have no beef with that. I am the same way...and this is why i am voting for McCain. Unlike SonRunner, you will NEVER catch me trying to change your vote because i think that i know YOUR home situaton better than you! That would be very ignorant of me!

Classic Republican attack. Show me where I said I know your home situation. You're name calling (eg Obamasexuals) is just a move in desperation. You have no facts, you're sticking to talking points that are wrong. Did you find anything incorrect in that video yet? Nope.

You're just blowing thoughtless hot air at this point. Maybe Rush Limbaugh needs a partner?
 
Ok,I'm an Obama fan;does that matter or change anything or make you feel better? :p

I'm betting in 4 years things will be better by quite a margin but I think anybody who's the next president will make things better than what we've had for the last 8 years.
 
I'm betting in 4 years things will be better by quite a margin but I think anybody who's the next president will make things better than what we've had for the last 8 years.


As for things "being better" because of who will or won't be President, that sounds good and fine; but why do so many people base their whole life around who is in the government?

If you want your situation to be better, then work harder for it. I know that the people in DC can often make things a lot worse for us (more regulation, higher taxes, wasteful spending, etc.), but whatever happened to individual freedom and personal responsibility that made this nation so great?

Maybe I am just "old school" with my thinking, but putting one's future in the hands of bureaucrats scares the living daylights out of me. As my grandpa used to say, government big enough to give you anything you want will be powerful enough to take everything you've got.
:(

No matter who wins the election next month, I predict that our taxes will still be raised, the deficit will grow and we'll face domestic & foreign challenges that are different than anything we have dealt with before. Regardless of who occupies the White House, the biggest problem is going to be Congress and the huge mass of unelected bureaucrats who do nothing else but drain time, money and energy from the rest of us.

To really unleash the talent of our country, get government out of the way, lower taxes for everyone, get spending under control and stop trying to micro-manage what everyone else is doing with their money. I would rather just be able to hang onto more of mine (that I work very hard to earn).

Instead of talking about who can 'redistribute' wealth more effectively, what about finding better ways to allow more wealth to be created? I think Washington politicians have done enough 'spreading around' lately - and it has been mostly bovine fecal matter that has been emanating from that city.
:bash:

Okay - end of my rant for now.
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"Government is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it can be both a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
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RonMAIDEN said:
Plus we need to get out of Iraq and McCain is going to drag his feet on that too

BTW, did you miss where Biden guarantees that Obama will face INTERNATIONAL CRISIS within 6 months of his term?? So, yeah, we will run and hide like a wuss in Iraq only to face ANOTHER international crisis...oh yeah, that is reassuring! :bash:
 
SonRunner said:
Did you find anything incorrect in that video yet? Nope.

Sorry, there is no point for me to watch such propaganda! Why? MSNBC, as noted above, lies about facts and even shows people the WRONG speech to downplay Biden's controversial speech!! WTF is that?!! Is that news or propaganda?????

So, i don't need to look at the video to know that MSNBC is full of crap.
 
Jeff Kleb said:

As for things "being better" because of who will or won't be President, that sounds good and fine; but why do so many people base their whole life around who is in the government?

If you want your situation to be better, then work harder for it. I know that the people in DC can often make things a lot worse for us (more regulation, higher taxes, wasteful spending, etc.), but whatever happened to individual freedom and personal responsibility that made this nation so great?

Maybe I am just "old school" with my thinking, but putting one's future in the hands of bureaucrats scares the living daylights out of me. As my grandpa used to say, government big enough to give you anything you want will be powerful enough to take everything you've got.
:(

No matter who wins the election next month, I predict that our taxes will still be raised, the deficit will grow and we'll face domestic & foreign challenges that are different than anything we have dealt with before. Regardless of who occupies the White House, the biggest problem is going to be Congress and the huge mass of unelected bureaucrats who do nothing else but drain time, money and energy from the rest of us.

To really unleash the talent of our country, get government out of the way, lower taxes for everyone, get spending under control and stop trying to micro-manage what everyone else is doing with their money. I would rather just be able to hang onto more of mine (that I work very hard to earn).

Instead of talking about who can 'redistribute' wealth more effectively, what about finding better ways to allow more wealth to be created? I think Washington politicians have done enough 'spreading around' lately - and it has been mostly bovine fecal matter that has been emanating from that city.
:bash:

Okay - end of my rant for now.
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"Government is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it can be both a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
-- George Washington

x2...agree 100%. That is what i have been saying all along, but apparently, hardwork in this country is a dying breed.

"Spread the wealth" says Obama...full of crap! :mad:
 
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Jeff Kleb said:

As for things "being better" because of who will or won't be President, that sounds good and fine; but why do so many people base their whole life around who is in the government?

If you want your situation to be better, then work harder for it. I know that the people in DC can often make things a lot worse for us (more regulation, higher taxes, wasteful spending, etc.), but whatever happened to individual freedom and personal responsibility that made this nation so great?

Maybe I am just "old school" with my thinking, but putting one's future in the hands of bureaucrats scares the living daylights out of me. As my grandpa used to say, government big enough to give you anything you want will be powerful enough to take everything you've got.
:(

No matter who wins the election next month, I predict that our taxes will still be raised, the deficit will grow and we'll face domestic & foreign challenges that are different than anything we have dealt with before. Regardless of who occupies the White House, the biggest problem is going to be Congress and the huge mass of unelected bureaucrats who do nothing else but drain time, money and energy from the rest of us.

To really unleash the talent of our country, get government out of the way, lower taxes for everyone, get spending under control and stop trying to micro-manage what everyone else is doing with their money. I would rather just be able to hang onto more of mine (that I work very hard to earn).

Instead of talking about who can 'redistribute' wealth more effectively, what about finding better ways to allow more wealth to be created? I think Washington politicians have done enough 'spreading around' lately - and it has been mostly bovine fecal matter that has been emanating from that city.
:bash:



Easy enough to say... wait til your Social Security disappears, Medicare disappears, Police and Fire service go to ruin, potholes appear in the roads. Maybe it would work in some Libertarian utopia but it 's just plain old unrealistic. The fact is we have some billionaires paying a lesser tax rate than normal middle class folks. You guys may be doing well, but you're not a litmus for the entire country. Btw, all taxes are a form of "spreading the wealth," get over it. Historically speaking the highest class of society is paying the lowest taxes ever, and Obama wants to raise it back to where Clinton had it. Our country is on the brink of disaster and the last thing we need is another 8 years of the same old failed policies.
 

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