Why 20 inch tires on Ltd?

[M1911]

There are no good options to replace them -- maybe two options before you are looking at going to 'non' standard size that could have safety and insurance implications...

Sure there are. Just find someone with an SR5 who wants the 20" wheels and will give you $500+ to swap them with his wheels. Problem solved.

 

[surfratsteve]

My solution

I was leery of the 20" rims myself, my issue was how skinny the tires looked. So I swapped out the tires to 275/55R20's. They look awesome and since the radius is very close there is not much speedo error to worry about.

 

[fraggy]

Quality 20" rims and tires would be just fine.

If Toyota would have done the 20" wheels and tires right, there would be no issue. My understanding is that there are considerable complaints for the 20" wheels on the 4Runner and the Seguoa. The real issue is a quality tire for the 20" wheel. Unfortunately, toyota cut corners on the 5 generation 4-Runner.

Actually, I see more trails editions at the malls then on the trails.

Enjoy!!!

 

[dekeman]

The 20s are just silly looking.

Toyota was 95% there, really surprised they didn't just chrome em out and add the "spinning" option.. :fro:

I disagree. The stock 20-inch rims look smart on the 4Runner - though I'll admit they should have been wider. The bigger issue is weight, but that's another thread.

Sure, the stock tires certainly don't help, but there are many options to make it sit and look right, and it's always fun finding the right combination.

Using 20s for summer, 17-inch SR5 wheels for winter (with winter tires) is a simple and solid set up, which also happens to look great, for either SR5 or LE owners.

 

[AustinCyclist]

I disagree. The stock 20-inch rims look smart on the 4Runner - though I'll admit they should have been wider. The bigger issue is weight, but that's another thread.

Sure, the stock tires certainly don't help, but there are many options to make it sit and look right, and it's always fun finding the right combination.

Using 20s for summer, 17-inch SR5 wheels for winter (with winter tires) is a simple and solid set up, which also happens to look great, for either SR5 or LE owners.

20's are gimmicky looking. Not a timeless design. SR5 wheels aren't perfect, but seem more fitting for an SUV. I do like the overall radius of the wheel and tire combination to be large.. for an SUV or Truck.. Having a big fat tire to achieve that goal instead of a large rim with a narrow profile tire.. is the obvious way to go.. unless you want to dink your rim for every curb or speed bump you hit going over 10 mph..

 

[dekeman]

Infiniti's new QX56 uses 22-inch rims — now those are scary big-ass rims and I'm sure a nightmare to keep true and balanced. Gotta say, though, they don't look half bad — even though I know I'm in the minority on this one.

 

[DocMT]

There's really no good reason for the 4Runner to come with 20" wheels, except the fact that big wheels are "in fashion" right now. To me, they look silly on a vehicle like the 4Runner not because of the size of the wheel, but rather the low profile of the tire. Toyota had to keep the overall diameter the same from the 17" wheels/tires to the 20" wheels/tires, so the short sidewall on the 20" wheel looks like it belongs on a sports car, not an SUV.

 

[DaveS]

I do think they would do well to offer the 20" rims as an option on the Limited rather than have them in the main package - I wonder how many buyers end up negotiating with the dealer to switch them for SR5 rims in fact.

 

[runnerchum]

20's are gimmicky looking. Not a timeless design. SR5 wheels aren't perfect, but seem more fitting for an SUV. I do like the overall radius of the wheel and tire combination to be large.. for an SUV or Truck.. Having a big fat tire to achieve that goal instead of a large rim with a narrow profile tire.. is the obvious way to go.. unless you want to dink your rim for every curb or speed bump you hit going over 10 mph..

All 4 wheels make up a buck!

 

[AustinCyclist]

Infiniti's new QX56 uses 22-inch rims — now those are scary big-ass rims and I'm sure a nightmare to keep true and balanced. Gotta say, though, they don't look half bad — even though I know I'm in the minority on this one.

Wow, that QX56 is almost ridgeline ugly! Maybe it will grow on me over time.. but doubt it.. the rims are fitting in conjunction with the overall look it is going for.. whatever that may be. Escalade probably won't be jealous..

On your point.. I wonder on the balancing.. as you'd think with rim manufacturing, you'd think rims would be pretty well balanced pre-tire, right.. so then with the larger rim, as you require less rubber, and especially "outer" rubber, most prone to that gyro effect.. and rubber being more likely to have imperfections in weight distribution over the rim.. so ultimately, although I don't like the big-rim look and function.. they may actually have one advantage.. better balancing..

 

[M1911]

I do think they would do well to offer the 20" rims as an option on the Limited rather than have them in the main package - I wonder how many buyers end up negotiating with the dealer to switch them for SR5 rims in fact.

I'd bet that most Limited buyers don't know any better and keep the 20" rims.

 

[Will733]

Sure there are. Just find someone with an SR5 who wants the 20" wheels and will give you $500+ to swap them with his wheels. Problem solved.

:lmao:
Their wheels, over $500 in cash, they pay for the installation, AND they have to make you a sandwich too!

Seriously though, I really doubt you can make any profit off a trade... Especially considering that there are very few people that prefer the LE 20's over SR5 17's.

 

[dekeman]

Wow, that QX56 is almost ridgeline ugly! Maybe it will grow on me over time.. but doubt it.. the rims are fitting in conjunction with the overall look it is going for.. whatever that may be. Escalade probably won't be jealous..

On your point.. I wonder on the balancing.. as you'd think with rim manufacturing, you'd think rims would be pretty well balanced pre-tire, right.. so then with the larger rim, as you require less rubber, and especially "outer" rubber, most prone to that gyro effect.. and rubber being more likely to have imperfections in weight distribution over the rim.. so ultimately, although I don't like the big-rim look and function.. they may actually have one advantage.. better balancing..

I concur on the Ridgeline, but not so on the larger wheels and balancing. Wheels come fairly well balanced from the factory, hence the weights you see inside the rim, but a larger diameter wheel means larger mass, and usually more weight. Any small upset to that mass, either changes in tire position on the rim, imperfections in the tire, or a curb or pothole can set that perfect rim balance askew, making the entire wheel asymmetrical and therefore out of balance. Variations in asymmetry are less noticeable in smaller wheels, but even the smallest vertical or lateral change in a large wheel will make a noticeable difference in ride quality. More, the amount of weight required to balance a large wheel is often greater, and those damn balancers don't come cheap.

 

[M1911]

:lmao:
Their wheels, over $500 in cash, they pay for the installation, AND they have to make you a sandwich too!

Seriously though, I really doubt you can make any profit off a trade... Especially considering that there are very few people that prefer the LE 20's over SR5 17's.

I've seen people get $1000 plus trade for them. You and I and offroader types prefer the 17's, but lots of folks think 20"+ wheels look cool.

 

[T4Fun]

the BIGGER question should be why toyota made them only 7 inchs wide (or requested them that way)...limited wheels too skinny...and they made them that way for gas mileage probably...but the difference between 265 and 245 tires shouldnt make that big of a difference

 

[luv2eat]

I personally like the looks of the 20" rims on the LTD. When I first bought my SR5, I was one of those people who wanted to trade rims with a LTD owner. Having owned my T4R for a few months now, I'm glad that I didn't trade them. I'm happy with the performance on/off the road and in snow. Having more choices when it comes time to swap them out is a big plus too.

Hey, I drive this thing to the mall too:banana:.

 

[DaveS]

I do think they would do well to offer the 20" rims as an option on the Limited rather than have them in the main package - I wonder how many buyers end up negotiating with the dealer to switch them for SR5 rims in fact.

I'd bet that most Limited buyers don't know any better and keep the 20" rims.

I wasn't thinking in terms of offroading by the way - more in terms of the PITA (and wallet) it will be finding replacement tires (guess if you can afford the Ltd you can afford the tires?).

That said, I'd rather not drive round in something that looks like it could be in the movie "Are we there yet?"

 

[DocMT]

...I really think it's the huge, boxy design and exaggerated features (lights for instance) of the 4Runner itself that totally engulf the wheels and tires when looking at the vehicle straight on either from the front or rear.

I don't know why Toyota decided to tuck the wheels so far in on the 5th gen. It looks silly that way. It's almost like they widened the body of the 5th gen, but kept the track width of the FJ Cruiser, resulting in a vehicle with wheels/tires that are far too tucked in.

Toyota should include a set of 1.25" wheel spacers with every 5th gen purchase.

 

[DaveS]

I don't know why Toyota decided to tuck the wheels so far in on the 5th gen. It looks silly that way. It's almost like they widened the body of the 5th gen, but kept the track width of the FJ Cruiser, resulting in a vehicle with wheels/tires that are far too tucked in.

Toyota should include a set of 1.25" wheel spacers with every 5th gen purchase.

I would guess it was a desperate attempt to reduce drag and inch down the fuel consumption - a bit like putting wings on a fridge and hoping it will fly mind you.

 

[dekeman]

I don't know why Toyota decided to tuck the wheels so far in on the 5th gen. It looks silly that way. It's almost like they widened the body of the 5th gen, but kept the track width of the FJ Cruiser, resulting in a vehicle with wheels/tires that are far too tucked in.

Toyota should include a set of 1.25" wheel spacers with every 5th gen purchase.

I'll second the motion!