Why did you pick the T4R over the FJ or Wrangler Unlimited?

[Muskrat14]

I looked at a Heep when I was looking at 4runners. Lack of engine power equaled poor towing. I tow a trailer w go carts and tons of firewood. No way the Heep would have worked. Plus, all the guys in my early Bronco club would have razzed me to death!

I will say this about Heeps, if they weren't around, I doubt our local off road park Rausch Creek would be in business.

 

[susanbanthony25]

I had a 2012 JKU sahara that was built like crazy. Head went out at 5k miles and was replaced under warranty. It was later stolen. I then bought a 2014 JKU Rubicon and immediately built that one like crazy. Both jeeps were on 37's and it was just too much for a daily driver. And with commuting 140 miles a day I wanted something more reliable.

I truly believe that the jeep rubicon is the best off road vehicle out the door, but like others have said, for a DD it just isn't practical. I too had all the leaks and squeaks. I do miss my outrageous jeeps but when I drive my new 4R all that goes away.

 

[Brandonium]

Once I started traveling to the blue ridge mountains I started to think how a 4-7 hour drive to get there in a Rubicon with 37's would treat me and what I'd be paying in fuel to get there. I can take a beating however the girl would be over it in short order and if it rained one night at the cabin and there was water leaking inside...yeah I'd be murdered in my sleep. :fencing:

I had a 2012 JKU sahara that was built like crazy. Head went out at 5k miles and was replaced under warranty. It was later stolen. I then bought a 2014 JKU Rubicon and immediately built that one like crazy. Both jeeps were on 37's and it was just too much for a daily driver. And with commuting 140 miles a day I wanted something more reliable.

I truly believe that the jeep rubicon is the best off road vehicle out the door, but like others have said, for a DD it just isn't practical. I too had all the leaks and squeaks. I do miss my outrageous jeeps but when I drive my new 4R all that goes away.

 

[susanbanthony25]

Once I started traveling to the blue ridge mountains I started to think how a 4-7 hour drive to get there in a Rubicon with 37's would treat me and what I'd be paying in fuel to get there. I can take a beating however the girl would be over it in short order and if it rained one night at the cabin and there was water leaking inside...yeah I'd be murdered in my sleep. :fencing:

Oh yeah, she wouldn't be to happy. My wife LOVED the jeeps but ultimately agreed it wasn't practical. And when we went to check out 4R's it was love at first sight for her. I couldn't get her out of it!

 

[Camodog]

Oh yeah, she wouldn't be to happy. My wife LOVED the jeeps but ultimately agreed it wasn't practical. And when we went to check out 4R's it was love at first sight for her. I couldn't get her out of it!

Mine was the exact same way. I only wish the 1st one she sat in and test drove wasn't the limited. She then sat in the 200 land cruiser and said this is the one she wanted, that was before I told her the price.

If Toyota made all the creature comforts of a limited, in a trail premium drivetrain, we would have easily bought the limited.

 

[Brandonium]

When we were out test driving the a TEP another salesperson slowly cruised by us in a Limited. The GF should 'Oooh, let's look at that one' to which I responded hell no! If the LTD came with KDSS and the same 4wd setup as the TEP I'd be very tempted but for me the TEP interior is nice enough. I'll miss dual climate and a larger nav screen but I gain other features that are near impossible to get these days.

Mine was the exact same way. I only wish the 1st one she sat in and test drove wasn't the limited. She then sat in the 200 land cruiser and said this is the one she wanted, that was before I told her the price.

If Toyota made all the creature comforts of a limited, in a trail premium drivetrain, we would have easily bought the limited.

 

[audiciter]

The T4R and Wrangler are entirely different and I'm not sure why they get compared as much as they do.

Wranglers are super popular right now and it shows with their resale value. Most of the ones I see driving around here are stock or have a mild lift/bigger tires. I'd have to think that a couple of the main reasons people get them are for the removable top and doors. I just don't think most of them off-road them at all.

That being said, there's nothing that I can think of that would have made me even look at a Wrangler when I was shopping. I went directly to the 4runner TE.

I don't like convertibles, enjoy a noisy ride, or feeling like I'm riding in a log wagon. But they are popular so lots of people must enjoy that.

 

[Phoenix4R]

The T4R and Wrangler are entirely different and I'm not sure why they get compared as much as they do.

It's a natural comparison since there really isn't anything with four doors and the capability on the market, at the price point, as these two.

 

[locust19]

I sold my rubicon with 18k miles. Piece of junk. Bad water pump, oil leak, coolant leak and differential leak. Oh yes it looked great but if you have to have a mechanic riding in the back for the zombie apocalypse,well....

 

[bythehour]

I didn't cross-shop the FJ or Wrangler when I bought my 4R. (Although, I did own a GC years ago.) I traded my LR3 for my 4R. I got tired of calling the auto club for tows. I wanted a trail-capable SUV that could carry my family and be reliable. For that, there isn't much much competition to the 4R.....

 

[Camodog]

I don't find the lr3 to be any more luxurious than a limited 4R. How many miles did you have on the Lr3 before it started giving you problems?

 

[bythehour]

I don't find the lr3 to be any more luxurious than a limited 4R. How many miles did you have on the Lr3 before it started giving you problems?

The LR3, being the descendent of the Disco, is a working SUV. It was pretty utilitarian. The only feature I miss is the air suspension. It really was a great ride; the 4R is rough by comparison.

There was always something wrong with it. It rattled from day one. The hood latch sensor failed the first week I had it. But the real expensive problems started in year four and only 50,000km and they never stopped.

 

[Beer_Runner]

Lemon Law'd my '07 JK. What a POS. Never ever again.

 

[blakjack23]

Why not? I don't see a current thread on the topic. If people don't want dead threads then they should delete them...otherwise it's free game!

Besides what else are people going to talk about?

That being said, I did because I figured I would end up spending a fortune modding one and only get 13 MPG, possible leaky roof and shit on road handling which is not ideal for a daily driver.

It was just funny because it was this guys first post ever and his reply had nothing to do with the actual question....and it was a 5+ year old thread.

 

[mcarey86]

I looked at a Heep when I was looking at 4runners. Lack of engine power equaled poor towing. I tow a trailer w go carts and tons of firewood. No way the Heep would have worked. Plus, all the guys in my early Bronco club would have razzed me to death!

I will say this about Heeps, if they weren't around, I doubt our local off road park Rausch Creek would be in business.

I just saw a lifted JKU on massive tires, towing a wake boarding boat up a canyon the other day.

They can't be THAT bad.

 

[BrianR383]

I can sum up my decision to go with the T4R over a Jeep in one word, reliability.

 

[JSparky]

I just saw a lifted JKU on massive tires, towing a wake boarding boat up a canyon the other day.

They can't be THAT bad.

Google "jk red lightening bolt". Mine tried to kill me several times.. Engine would just die randomly on the interstate and around town. Dealership said they fixed it each time. It it had happened on a mountain road or in foul weather I may not be here today.

 

[Toffees]

Not sure if this is in the spirit of the original question, but I needed a 3rd row. The others are completely useless if your family is large.

 

[TheRoadNotTaken]

My ice fishing portable didn't fit in the jeep...

 

[northcoast]

Wifey and baby likely wouldn't tolerate the ride for more than 50 miles. But I don't hate on the JK. It's iconic.