Will I Even See Gain?

Brian757

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So I am tired of my Jerry-rigged-POS for a cold air intake. It is a K&N filter on some Spectre crappy pipe, and I am tired of it. I know for a fact that my cold air intake is pulling in warm air, so I believe it does my truck no good.

Will I see an improvement with the Volant CAI I purchased a few days ago?
(Its still in the mail.)

I would also like to mention that I no longer have my factory air box or silencer, and need a decent CAI. So I ended up going with the Volant, over the K&N.

CURRENTLY:
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THE UPGRADE: (Not Mine, obviously)
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CAI's rarely do much.. They are a waste of money in my opinion. Especially on our rigs. They may bring in more air, but I doubt it's any cooler. Not to mention that thing is huge. Looks like you would have to disassemble it just to change your headlight!
 
CAI's rarely do much.. They are a waste of money in my opinion. Especially on our rigs. They may bring in more air, but I doubt it's any cooler. Not to mention that thing is huge. Looks like you would have to disassemble it just to change your headlight!

Aww... :(
I was hoping not to hear that. Oh well, at least I'm taken care of in terms of my CAI, I will hopefully never have to mess with it again. My current one has one bracket holding it up, and I welded the bracket to the body, but the bracket broke, so its being held in with zip-ties. (I know, ghetto.)

But I'm hoping this new one won't give me problems. And your right about the whole headlight thing. It is put right there next to the back of the housing. Hopefully I won't need to repair my headlights anytime soon.
 
For intakes the factors that matter are the flow of the filter, the length of the tube, radius of the bends, internal smoothness of the tube, and of course the temperature of the incoming air.

That Volant unit is nice looking and may help with a couple of those factors, but any gains will likely be in the higher RPM areas anyway and probably only a couple HP. I'm guessing most 4runner owners don't go over 4k+ RPM often.
 
I mean, my filter is really hot when my truck has been running. I think I went backwards in performance with this CAI I currently have. I was better off with the factory air box and the deckplate mod. But I had already gotten rid of my air box and silencer before I heard of the deckplate mod.

So here is me attempting to move forward. I hope to see better improvement than what's expected.
 
With all the power I imagine you lost with the Spectre setup, I imagine you'll have some gains with the Volant. It really is the better setup of the options available I think, especially with it drawing air from the fender as the stock setup does.

I'd look into the "elbow" mod when you get it. Esentially remove the piece of intake that's in your fender.
 
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The PO put that same Volant intake on my Runner so I can't comment on any noticeable power gains/ect. But I can say that it seems to be a nice construction and it is still easy to access the MAF and filter through the top of the box. One thing I did to it after inspecting the box all around is made a ductape "tube" going from the air box's air opening to the stock hole for the intake in the fender well. And I also removed the internal elbow that was inside the fender. That way the intake is only sucking air from the fender instead of taking in air from around the fender hole. Future plans are to add a real tube from the box to the fender with a cut apart spray paint can so I don't have to worry about the ductape degrading and falling apart.

And on a side note: I can definitely hear sound of the air intake when the passenger door is opened now after what I have done. I kind of like to hear it working but others may not.
 
Another thing w/ these types of intakes is the K&N reusable air filters.... I know they do flow more, and they are good filters... but they COAT your entire intake system with a fine oil.

Over time this traps dirt, dust, etc. Honestly I would just stick with paper filters and change them once a year.
 
Another thing w/ these types of intakes is the K&N reusable air filters.... I know they do flow more, and they are good filters... but they COAT your entire intake system with a fine oil.

Over time this traps dirt, dust, etc. Honestly I would just stick with paper filters and change them once a year.

I've heard of this, and I've even heard the oil produced can interfere with the MAF sensor. But like I said, I didn't do this CAI right the first time, and I'm trying to come back from it. I know my engine is struggling more because of it. So I will let you know when I install it :D
 
You will def notice the difference! my truck already came with a aem witch is def a good one, but I wish I had the volant! I love the hole design!
 
Post some pics of it. I like the design of the Volant, and knew of a friend who had one on his Pathfinder who really liked it. He ultimately had a performance shop tune his ECM and it gave him some more HP (maybe 6hp). After close to $1000, he said not again. Too much $$$.

I liked the Tru Flow set up they offered before the recession put them out of business.
 
yeah you will notice a difference, i had the K&N CAI on my runner when i bought it and at first was happy about that, but then when i really looked at it and thought about it, i hated it, first of i didnt have the heat shield(like you dont), and so i was just sucking in hot air from the radiator and the exhaust manifold -not that the heat shield that K&N gives you really seals off the hot air... anyhow i dumped the CAI cone filter but kept the tube when i found a stock air box, used a drop in K&N filter for a while, but like others are saying, it just coated my tube in oil and the butterfly plate on the TB -though i never had any issues with the MAF sensor. so i just swapped that out for the factory filter, -i can get them free from my father inlaw so i just replace it like every 10-15k miles. and then i picked up a snorkel for dirt cheep($100), so yeah i noticed huge improvements in mileage, probably picked up close to another 30-45miles per tank if i drive easy, on average about 20-25miles using the K&N intake tube and factory air box with snorkel. im not sure if the snorkel is really helping things or not as far as getting more cold air, but i am sure its getting cleaner air, just because its not getting the air from in the fender and all the dust that the tire kicks up ect. -do i think the snorkel is worth the $450 for the kit just for the mileage? no, no i do not. but if you do wheel in areas that have "deep" water crossings or high dust environments like say you live on a dirt road, or spend a lot of time on dirt roads, then maybe its something you want to look into. but i dont think its something i would buy just to have for normal driving to help improve fuel economy or cleaner air on the hwy -it would take a long time for the savings in air filters, oil changes and fuel to cover the cost of the snorkel, and i venture to say that you would never put enough miles on the truck for that to ever pay off, even if you had done this on day one, and had 500k+ miles on your truck. -i know this isnt about the snorkel, but more about the CAI vs stock(ish) set ups, but sense i have the snorkel and it was mentioned by another member i figured id throw my two cents in here. yes i think it helps, and if you can find one cheap enough or get a killer deal on one, and dont mind drilling your fender for a permanent mod then sure you will "see" some slight gains(more if you live/travel in dirty environments), but honestly they will be hardly noticeable for id say 95% of people. i probably notice it more than a lot of people with it cause of having to spend a lot of time on back roads and old forest service roads and logging roads doing SAR missions. but still i dont even think for me it would be worth the cost of buying one new.

back to the original question, i think going to a enclosed style air intake system will yield gains for you over your current set up, and should pay for itself (especially if you can sell that old K&N filter). if i had the money id look into the volant system and try to seal it up cause i know that filter has better flow than the stock filter and its oil-less/dry if im not mistaken.
 
I wanted to go with the Volant, but couldn't afford it so I went with the AirAid tube and got a free K&N from Summit Racing through gift cards they sent me (my stock intake tubes ripped in 2 places so it was worth replacing with AirAid). I haven't notice power gains too much, but did see mileage improvements. You will definitely notice the same as your truck now sucks in hot air.
As far as oiled filters, I did see some residue in the tube when I cleaned my MAF/TB this past weekend. However, I have always run K&N in all my cars and never had problems. I'll keep this one going for now and see what happens (its only been a few thousand miles).
Anyway, congrats on the purchase, I would be really excited if I was you!
 
So, ever since my K&N filter oiled up my MAF sensor, I had gotten a Spectre dry filter. Well, here are the before and after pictures:




Had to drill holes for MAF:



Got the box in:


Got the Powercore Dry Filter installed:





Here is my attempt at a Video:

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CONCLUSION: I have found that my truck runs a lot quieter at idle and when cruising down the road. The engine bay doesn't have so much *whizzing* sounds going on, and my engine is hopefully getting better air.
 
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Got the Powercore Dry Filter installed: [URL=http://s280.photobucket.com/user/briann757/media/DSC00932_zpsf91e4fb9.jpg.html said:

Hopefully they sent you the "trimming" that goes around the edges of the box where the intake tube goes in.. Its like a thin rubber or plastic tubing that seals the edges where the tube enters.

But it looks good!
 
Hopefully they sent you the "trimming" that goes around the edges of the box where the intake tube goes in.. Its like a thin rubber or plastic tubing that seals the edges where the tube enters.

But it looks good!

Haha, they did. I figured someone would mention it. I put that on almost last. I will post up a picture of this thing all done today. But thanks for the comment! I almost forgot about it and when I stumbled upon it, I wondered what it was. I looked at the installation page (Which is horrible), and it wasn't on there.

So I assumed the location for it was where the tube entered the box. Thanks!
 

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