SAC-CA-Runner
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Whoa...someone throwing fuel on a fire that was JUST about dead. I agree with a LOT of people and their posts and their "science" behind brakes. We have some engineers here! Woohoo!!! But I can tell you, with how much weight I have on my 4Runner and I remember modulating my brakes coming down Lippincott Pass in Death Valley. That is not a very steep pass. I had MAJOR brake fade due to all my weight. And yes, I had upgraded lines, better fluid, better pads (F and R) and it made NO difference. It was at that point I upgraded to the Stoptechs from SOS Performance (who also make a matching rear) and I have NEVER experienced ANY brake fade since then and I traveled and lived out of my 4Runner for 6 months and I went from CA to CO to MT to the Artic Ocean to AK to WA to AZ to TX to NC to FL and back to CO and the Stoptech brakes performed WAY better than any upgraded stock system would. And now living in CO, NO issues on mountain passes or trails in UT, CO, NM, or AZ. Take allllll the science and engineering you want and argue all day, but I have REAL life experience and it was night and day difference with all the shit I have on my truck to Broverland. And yes, I've tracked cars as well so I know the necessity of good brakes. Hell, even the size Stoptechs I had on my B5S4 with 450hp wasn't even enough to not suffer brake fade. I needed MUCH bigger to keep them fading. Or maybe some Alcons. But in a certain size and weight of a vehicle, a stock size will only get you so far. And let's not mention the stock calipers seizing in areas with crappy climates....like CO, at times.
Do what you want with your money. Go 35s and LT so you get more likes on IG, but your money is better spent on brakes especially if you're loaded up. My .02 and now will be logging off as I'm sure some on this thread will want to "discuss". Cheers!