winch line?
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MStudt
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Factor 55 Pro Link and a Master Pull line. Polyperformance should have both of them.
MStudt
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Both are good, but I only have experience with Master Pull. They're both comparable, and both have great reviews.
the great him
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if you absolutely must have synthetic line then go amsteel blue. but i prefer the steel cable. its much more forgiving imo. you can drag it through the mud let it get dirty, let it get road spray and salt ect on it and it wont break down like synthetic will. if synthetic was all so great then why dont all the towing companies use it? why, because its delicate, its like a woman or a flower... it wont take getting used and used and beat up on. im not saying you can be careless with the steel cable line and just beat on it, but it will take a lot more abuse then synthetic will. synthetic line is in the same boat to me as uniball UCAs great for racing, but super high maintenance! and they cost a fortune and dont really offer an out this world advantages. for every advantage there is an equal drawback, and then their is the price... synthetic rope and uniballs are for racing/competition applications where cost is really not in the consideration and weight(or lack there of) is a highly valued commodity.
same goes for the thimble, cool and all, but why? no you just limited yourself to how you can hook it up, you cant hook to just anything now you have greatly limited your options. not all bow shackles/D-rings/clevis' ect will work with them. and the ones that will might not work with what you are trying to hook up too... just keep the standard hook and carry a couple of threaded 3/4" clevis with you for attaching to other things. if you want to get something better than the standard hook get a something like a gunnebo safety hook. they have several types from simple spring gate hooks to self locking safety hooks(like what i have) that the more you pull the harder the clamping force they provide. yeah the gunnebo ones are spendy but there are other companies that make them too. and they are way more versatile than a thimble.
same goes for the thimble, cool and all, but why? no you just limited yourself to how you can hook it up, you cant hook to just anything now you have greatly limited your options. not all bow shackles/D-rings/clevis' ect will work with them. and the ones that will might not work with what you are trying to hook up too... just keep the standard hook and carry a couple of threaded 3/4" clevis with you for attaching to other things. if you want to get something better than the standard hook get a something like a gunnebo safety hook. they have several types from simple spring gate hooks to self locking safety hooks(like what i have) that the more you pull the harder the clamping force they provide. yeah the gunnebo ones are spendy but there are other companies that make them too. and they are way more versatile than a thimble.
JayRolla
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Steel. Durability = Safety
Brilliant
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Inspection interval is assumed and thus mitigates issues associated with worn line. The sythnthetic is safer. Its not debatable, its physicics.
JayRolla
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Inspection interval is assumed and thus mitigates issues associated with worn line. The sythnthetic is safer. Its not debatable, its physicics.
Quote straight from Warn industry
"Some people immediately think synthetic rope is safer than steel rope. Although steel rope will store more potential energy, since it's made out of steel, it is less prone to abrasion (and possible fraying)."
Brilliant
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This doesn't substantiate your position that steel is safer and that safety is equal to durability.
What it does say is wire has more potential energy. This validates the synthetic position as safer, which is consistent with physical laws.
Besides would warn make an explicit statement that wire or synthetic is safer than the other. They'd expose themselves to potential product liability for selling steel when a safer alternative exists. I'd go as far as to say that the safety implications of products and the associated language is tightly controlled at all manufacturing companies. I know it is where I've worked.
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the great him
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Its a give and take... You give up one to gain the other... But in so giving up you also lose some of what you are trying to gain. Both is true for both lines... It really boils down to the user and the use.
JayRolla
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So your the "some people" warn talks about to call synthetic safer. You know what else that's unsafe? Winching. Lol. I really just wanted to read your educated statements.
owyheerat
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I found this article by Scott Brady very informative, when I was deciding which type of line for my new winch. Line Luddites ? Exploring Overland
Good luck
Good luck
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the great him
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yes it is...
Brilliant
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Emm k, not sure what what means but i love you too.
PS: I dropped out of high school.
Well he has a position.
Some could say something about shock loading a price of winchline. Its dyneema or similiar i believe. Like your climbing sling then it cannot be shock loaded. You can snap a 32kn ~7klbs tensilse strength double easier than you'd think with a small fall. The tying it at your feet and falling off a ledge scenario. Dmm has a video out there.
KidVermicious
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The two reasons I chose synthetic over steel are safety and the ability to splice a broken line. I don't use the winch all the time and I keep it covered on the front of the truck, so durability is not as big a concern for me as it might be for someone winching regularly? I agree about the thimble though. They look snazzy, but I honestly don't see what functionality they add.
