Windows vs. Mac
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ALt4r
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cweta37 said:
The quality on the ibook sucked and now they are discontinued. I'm not sure you would want one even if you could still find one
I have a question for mac people. I would like to get a macbook pro but how does it do booting windows xp? I always heard it can run both OS but does it run the windows one well? That said, what do you lose? Could i download ANY program from the internet that says it works on windows even if im booting off a mac? I'm just worried about compatibility if i got a mac. I just wish it had more support from 3rd parties.
I love the OSX (is that what it is?) operating system's look. I don't really know the functionality but i would expect it to be clean and fast. Most of all the macbooks look awesome. Maybe im just lookin for a new look, windows is boring.
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KellyJ
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I have some garbage HP laptop (will never buy again, but the only way my dad said I would have a laptop for college is if he bought it through the school and it was either a choice of a 6710 or a 13 inch Mac Book, and now in hindsight I should have gone with the Mac.) My parents have always used Macs, and I grew up on them but after 8th grade I wanted a PC for high school so I got my own custom made. 2.6 P4, 1 GB ram, 17" flat panel and 200 GB hard drive and a nVidia fx5600 graphics card was the best computer I could manage back in 2003 with $1200 of my dad's cash.
My parents have 2 G5's, one G$ and a G3 Graphite Edition. My mom has a 17' MacBook Pro Intel Duo, which is what I really would like. Those things kick arse
My parents have 2 G5's, one G$ and a G3 Graphite Edition. My mom has a 17' MacBook Pro Intel Duo, which is what I really would like. Those things kick arse
Mark86
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ALt4r said:The quality on the ibook sucked and now they are discontinued. I'm not sure you would want one even if you could still find one
I have a question for mac people. I would like to get a macbook pro but how does it do booting windows xp? I always heard it can run both OS but does it run the windows one well? That said, what do you lose? Could i download ANY program from the internet that says it works on windows even if im booting off a mac? I'm just worried about compatibility if i got a mac. I just wish it had more support from 3rd parties.
I love the OSX (is that what it is?) operating system's look. I don't really know the functionality but i would expect it to be clean and fast. Most of all the macbooks look awesome. Maybe im just lookin for a new look, windows is boring.
There is a program called bootcamp which allows you to install windows on a different partition. Since I could not live without Flight Simulator X and Ea Sports games (only can run on Windows), I decided to try out bootcamp and install Windows Vista on my Macbook Pro. Basically, when you boot into windows, it is just like any other Windows computer. If it can run on your HP, Sony, Dell, etc, it can run on your Mac with bootcamp. I use the Windows partition for games that cannot run on Mac OS so I only partitioned 32 gb for Windows. Honestly, my Mac runs Windows better than any other computer I have ever used.
The Mac OSX is very easy to use. It should only take you a few days to get used to it.
ALt4r
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Mark86 said:
Thanks a lot, i have heard of bootcamp, just wondering if it works exactly as if a bought a dell with windows on it (with the extra Mac OS of course). It's just that i have heard of people buying a separate computer with Windows just for gaming although they already had a mac...hmm (boot camp was released at the time).
One more question for mac people. You can't really get a good deal like you can on dells and stuff. Good deal meaning you have to buy at apple's retail price no matter what website you go to right? Like the iPod where you can't really find anything but like $10 cheaper than on the apple website. If that makes any sense..
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hubbabubba
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ALt4r said:
I use VMware Fusion which lets me run XP (or Vista) as a virtual operating system on my iMac. You can run OS X side-by-side with XP (or in different Spaces) and you can even drag files back and forth between operating systems. No need to reboot to choose one or the other. You can even "suspend" XP so the next time you run VMware Fusion, it restores to exactly where you left off in Windows.
By the way, it seems like XP loads quicker on a Mac.
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hubbabubba
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Mark86 said:
Well, it does support 3D gaming, just not every single game (probably not the newer titles). I loaded Command & Conquer Generals PC (an older PC game) which requires Direct X 8.1 and it plays fine on my 2.4Ghz Core Duo 2 w/ 2Gigs of RAM. There is an option on VMware Fusion to enable 3D acceleration. I think VMware has a list of supported games on their website.
I'm not sure about Flight Simulator X - what Direct X does it require?
Is Bootcamp included in Leopard?
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ALt4r
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Re: Once you go Mac you never go back...
. Especially in computers, its easier to get a laptop with much better specs, but you just cant get that mac OS. I guess i play with the OS at a store and see what happens.
Only thing holding me back right now is the price and the compatibility with xp/vista, as you guys know many programs run only on windows. But like you guys said with bootcamp, i can do that. But why do Macs have to be so damn expensive, just because they are the only ones that can get to the parts and productsmagnumfan said:
. Especially in computers, its easier to get a laptop with much better specs, but you just cant get that mac OS. I guess i play with the OS at a store and see what happens.
RonMAIDEN
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Alot of my friends say some of the bigger gaming titles aren't supported by Mac or don't work on them as well,is this true?
I'm a simple computer guy and am happy with my Windows XP PC but will upgrade eventually to Vista. My best friend is a computer nerd and makes $70k+ a year just making sure PCs hold together for the government so I almost never have any issues with mine with him around which is a nice benefit.
I'm a simple computer guy and am happy with my Windows XP PC but will upgrade eventually to Vista. My best friend is a computer nerd and makes $70k+ a year just making sure PCs hold together for the government so I almost never have any issues with mine with him around which is a nice benefit.
hubbabubba
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Re: Re: Once you go Mac you never go back...
Yeah, I see your point but when you make direct comparisons of specs remember that one is running XP/Vista & the other is running OS X.
Here are a few pros (IMHO) for getting a Mac:
- No antivirus software - don't need any
- No need for drivers - when you plug something in, it's recognized
- Can Run OS X or Windows
- Doesn't come loaded with crap software (unless you consider Microsoft Office for Mac)
- When you delete a program, there's nothing left in registries because there are no registries
- OS X - it's just a lot nicer
A few cons:
- More expensive
- Some software titles are PC only (use Bootcamp or Fusion)
- Not state of the art when it comes to hardcore gaming
- Right-clicking doesn't really do anything
By the way, mine is a 24" iMac, 2.4 Ghz with 2G of RAM. It's the best purchase I ever made - well, with the exception of my 4runner & LandCruiser
ALt4r said:Only thing holding me back right now is the price and the compatibility with xp/vista, as you guys know many programs run only on windows. But like you guys said with bootcamp, i can do that. But why do Macs have to be so damn expensive, just because they are the only ones that can get to the parts and products
Yeah, I see your point but when you make direct comparisons of specs remember that one is running XP/Vista & the other is running OS X.
Here are a few pros (IMHO) for getting a Mac:
- No antivirus software - don't need any
- No need for drivers - when you plug something in, it's recognized
- Can Run OS X or Windows
- Doesn't come loaded with crap software (unless you consider Microsoft Office for Mac)
- When you delete a program, there's nothing left in registries because there are no registries
- OS X - it's just a lot nicer
A few cons:
- More expensive
- Some software titles are PC only (use Bootcamp or Fusion)
- Not state of the art when it comes to hardcore gaming
- Right-clicking doesn't really do anything
By the way, mine is a 24" iMac, 2.4 Ghz with 2G of RAM. It's the best purchase I ever made - well, with the exception of my 4runner & LandCruiser
hubbabubba
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RonMAIDEN said:
Here are some games offered on the Apple website:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...86C4&node=home/shop_mac/software/action_games
dingo
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On a side note, whenever I buy a new Mac I always take the restore discs and wipe the hard drive clean from the very second I open the box. That way I can only install what I want and not have all those foreign languages and printer drivers which I will never use. You gain back a good 4-6 GB depending on what you don't use. However, I do keep all the included software that was pre-installed. I don't see myself using the computer other than in English anyway. I don't have plans using it in Turkish or Finnish anytime soon. I have done this to all my Macs, especially when I upgrade to a newer version of OSX. Wipe the hard drive clean.
So you see, contrary to some popular sayings, Macs do come with some unwanted crap on the hard drive albeit transparent.
I have done this to all my Macs, especially when I upgrade to a newer version of OSX. Wipe the hard drive clean.So you see, contrary to some popular sayings, Macs do come with some unwanted crap on the hard drive albeit transparent.
ALt4r
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Re: Re: Re: Once you go Mac you never go back...
I'm not stupid when im on the internet so i never get viruses or adware, spyware etc. When i do i have like 3 programs although i see the benefit in a mac.
I use CCleaner to clean registries once in a while.
You can buy from places that don't install any bloatware.
As for drivers, i have heard macs can have problems, but maybe they are just products not made for mac.
So it comes down to the OS and for me. If it really is that much better than windows, i will see. The main thing is compatibility, rebooting with bootcamp is meh to me, why not just use a windows os. I'll see if the OS is justified by the price. 08 Landcruiser :bigok: ...
hubbabubba said:Yeah, I see your point but when you make direct comparisons of specs remember that one is running XP/Vista & the other is running OS X.
Here are a few pros (IMHO) for getting a Mac:
- No antivirus software - don't need any
- No need for drivers - when you plug something in, it's recognized
- Can Run OS X or Windows
- Doesn't come loaded with crap software (unless you consider Microsoft Office for Mac)
- When you delete a program, there's nothing left in registries because there are no registries
- OS X - it's just a lot nicer
A few cons:
- More expensive
- Some software titles are PC only (use Bootcamp or Fusion)
- Not state of the art when it comes to hardcore gaming
- Right-clicking doesn't really do anything
By the way, mine is a 24" iMac, 2.4 Ghz with 2G of RAM. It's the best purchase I ever made - well, with the exception of my 4runner & LandCruiser
I'm not stupid when im on the internet so i never get viruses or adware, spyware etc. When i do i have like 3 programs although i see the benefit in a mac.
I use CCleaner to clean registries once in a while.
You can buy from places that don't install any bloatware.
As for drivers, i have heard macs can have problems, but maybe they are just products not made for mac.
So it comes down to the OS and for me. If it really is that much better than windows, i will see. The main thing is compatibility, rebooting with bootcamp is meh to me, why not just use a windows os. I'll see if the OS is justified by the price. 08 Landcruiser :bigok: ...
