Winter tires - TPMS, rims, etc

[rcfs1834]

I’m looking at buying my first set of winter tires (settled on Blizzak DM-V2). My questions are:
1/ Do I need an extra set of rims to mount them on or can I just swap them out on the existing rim when the seasons change?
2/ If I do need an extra set of rims, do I need to get the TPMS programmed at the dealer or can a tire store do that?
3/ Where do you guys buy cheap rims for your winter tires? Cheapest rims on Tirerack start at over $120 each.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Jay McKnight]

I'm in the same boat. I own a 2011 and just purchased a set of Nokian R2's for the winter. I plan on picking up another set of stock alloy rims to mount them on. Does anyone know if a set of 2018 alloys will fit my 2011 correctly?

 

[Jay McKnight]

Update. I checked the casting numbers on one of my 2011 rims this morning, and they are 17x7 with a 15mm offset. I ordered a new set of alloy rims with the same specs from an e-bay vendor for $349, free shipping. I hope to just install valve stems and ignore the warning light.

 

[Mudeprived]

I’m looking at buying my first set of winter tires (settled on Blizzak DM-V2). My questions are:
1/ Do I need an extra set of rims to mount them on or can I just swap them out on the existing rim when the seasons change?
2/ If I do need an extra set of rims, do I need to get the TPMS programmed at the dealer or can a tire store do that?
3/ Where do you guys buy cheap rims for your winter tires? Cheapest rims on Tirerack start at over $120 each.

Thanks in advance.

You can swap em but that will cost $$ twice a year and you will end up paying more than an extra set of wheels. Just get wheels and save yourself the hassle and alot of $$.

There are aftermarket steel wheels all over the web cheaper than $120. Check out summit racing.

Do these trucks even need winter tires? I only had mine for two seasons but they were gnarly snow seasons and my truck did not flinch with the Goodyear Authority tires on it.

 

[Jay McKnight]

You can swap em but that will cost $$ twice a year and you will end up paying more than an extra set of wheels. Just get wheels and save yourself the hassle and alot of $$.

There are aftermarket steel wheels all over the web cheaper than $120. Check out summit racing.

Do these trucks even need winter tires? I only had mine for two seasons but they were gnarly snow seasons and my truck did not flinch with the Goodyear Authority tires on it.

I drove a 3rd generation for 10 Northern Michigan winters. It sucked driving it the first winter with all-season tires. I ran it for several winters with a set of Hankook Dynapro ATM's and it got around quite well, but they didn't compare to actual snow tires.

 

[A70BoosTFienD]

I’m looking at buying my first set of winter tires (settled on Blizzak DM-V2). My questions are:
1/ Do I need an extra set of rims to mount them on or can I just swap them out on the existing rim when the seasons change?
2/ If I do need an extra set of rims, do I need to get the TPMS programmed at the dealer or can a tire store do that?
3/ Where do you guys buy cheap rims for your winter tires? Cheapest rims on Tirerack start at over $120 each.

Thanks in advance.

Im interested in the TPMS question as well. Hopefully its takes a few miles of rolling and they sync to the new set

 

[Bossman]

After running two Canadian winters on my Michelin Premier LTX 245/60R20 Michelin Premier all-season tires (20" Limited rims), I began searching for a second set of OEM alloy rims this past summer to run a set of dedicated winters.

I found some 2018 TRD Off-Road take-off rims with very low mileage at a reasonable price, and then just today installed Toyo Observe GSi-5 265/70R17 winter tires. Fit perfectly on my 2011 Limited.

Having a second set of rims removes some of the hassle associated with the seasonal changeovers with only one set. The winter rims may take a beating (corrosion!) if road salt is used on your roads. That is why I decided not to run steelies - they rust far too quickly up here.

I decided against a second set of TPMS for my winter rims/tires, and will have to put up with the warning light on the dash. For me, it was a cost saving measure for the units themselves and then the seasonal re-programming.

 

[A70BoosTFienD]

After running two Canadian winters on my Michelin Premier LTX 245/60R20 Michelin Premier all-season tires (20" Limited rims), I began searching for a second set of OEM alloy rims this past summer to run a set of dedicated winters.

I found some 2018 TRD Off-Road take-off rims with very low mileage at a reasonable price, and then just today installed Toyo Observe GSi-5 265/70R17 winter tires. Fit perfectly on my 2011 Limited.

Having a second set of rims removes some of the hassle associated with the seasonal changeovers with only one set. The winter rims may take a beating (corrosion!) if road salt is used on your roads. That is why I decided not to run steelies - they rust far too quickly up here.

I decided against a second set of TPMS for my winter rims/tires, and will have to put up with the warning light on the dash. For me, it was a cost saving measure for the units themselves and then the seasonal re-programming.

Is the reprogramming the main reason? You gotta plug into obd to turn the light off anyway so might as well reprogram them if you can imo lol

 

[L8Shift]

Im interested in the TPMS question as well. Hopefully its takes a few miles of rolling and they sync to the new set

Serial numbers from each sensor needs to be uploaded to the T4R ECU.
The ECU holds 1 set of sensor IDs.

Takes ~ 5 mins to upload IDs to the ECU. I expect you local tire shop would include it in with the seasonal wheel swap. :thumb:

 

[A70BoosTFienD]

Serial numbers from each sensor needs to be uploaded to the T4R ECU.
The ECU holds 1 set of sensor IDs.

Takes ~ 5 mins to upload IDs to the ECU. I expect you local tire shop would include it in with the seasonal wheel swap. :thumb:

Ive never done it before, What kind of ECU interface would you need to reprogram that? I feel some cheap ebay unit could pull that off

 

[L8Shift]

Ive never done it before, What kind of ECU interface would you need to reprogram that? I feel some cheap ebay unit could pull that off

The Toyota TPMS system works off of 315mhz, I believe.

You can probably google yourself for a cheap ebay unit, let us know what you find. I am not familiar with any cheap TPMS tools.

I have an Autel, the shop I use has a Snap-on TPMS tool.
These tools also read the PSI, temperature, battery condition, as well as the serial# ID, all off the air.

Good Luck! :tea:

 

[Bossman]

Is the reprogramming the main reason? You gotta plug into obd to turn the light off anyway so might as well reprogram them if you can imo lol

The 2018 TRD Off-Road rims that I bought did not come with sensors. Having to buy new sensors, and then do a seasonal TPMS reprogramming (switching from my 20" summers to 17" winters) is not something I want to budget for. Yes, they charge for this reprogramming at tire shops and the dealership. I was okay with having the warning light on all winter.

I have a perfectly good tire gauge in my glovebox, and will check my tire pressures manually each week (like we did in the old days before vehicles had these fancy gizmos and doo-dads!).

What I discovered today was that my TPMS has not been on the entire time I have owned my new-to-me 2011. The 20" wheels do have sensors in them, but when I removed them from the vehicle for the 17" winters and put the 20s in storage, my TPMS warning light did not come on as it should have.

I suspect that when the previous owner traded it in (early spring) he had the TPMS disabled for his winter rims/tires, but did not tell the dealership to reprogram for the 20s that were on it at the time of the trade-in. So my warning light is not on.

 

[Jay McKnight]

The 2018 TRD Off-Road rims that I bought did not come with sensors. Having to buy new sensors, and then do a seasonal TPMS reprogramming (switching from my 20" summers to 17" winters) is not something I want to budget for. Yes, they charge for this reprogramming at tire shops and the dealership. I was okay with having the warning light on all winter.

I have a perfectly good tire gauge in my glovebox, and will check my tire pressures manually each week (like we did in the old days before vehicles had these fancy gizmos and doo-dads!).

What I discovered today was that my TPMS has not been on the entire time I have owned my new-to-me 2011. The 20" wheels do have sensors in them, but when I removed them from the vehicle for the 17" winters and put the 20s in storage, my TPMS warning light did not come on as it should have.

I suspect that when the previous owner traded it in (early spring) he had the TPMS disabled for his winter rims/tires, but did not tell the dealership to reprogram for the 20s that were on it at the time of the trade-in. So my warning light is not on.

Any idea what was done to disable it? That's the route I would go if I can figure out how to do it.

 

[FJcruiser2012]

I use a dedicated 2nd set of rims for my Blizzacks. I just place electrical tape over the tams light .

Your going to love the love Blizzacks I do.

 

[Bossman]

Any idea what was done to disable it? That's the route I would go if I can figure out how to do it.

I'm not exactly sure how this "warning light off" reprogramming was done, but highly suspect it was done at the Toyota dealership using Techstream.

It would seem that the easiest way to do this would be to clear all of the TPMS codes that had been previously entered and stored.

Since I'm fine with the TPMS warning light being off for the winter, I'll investigate further when the 20s go back on in the spring.

 

[Drzew123]

rims

I would love a second set of rims for dedicated winter tires. With all the 17 in rims being sold on craigs list do any other mfg rims fit the 4runner. I have seen some ford raptor 17in 6 lug going cheap or Silverado rims. Anybody know?