Workin for little living.

Me and my wife have always been a we have money and let's spend it on nice things kind of people.

Like [MENTION=97032]hearno[/MENTION] said, you're young enough that you can learn from this experience and you'll be ok. One of the things that you'll learn is that life isn't bad without all those "nice" things. Buy what you need, not what you want.

Chin up brother - look through the windshield and not into the rearview mirror.
 
Im tired of putting in the hours and not having anything to show for it. im just ranting so you can continue to scroll i just needed to say it. I cant even pay my bills half the time. Life sucks.

I'm sorry to hear that dude. Can you add a bit of context like what industry you are in and is there any chance of a change?
 
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Boeing is going to be hiring for a long time to come. Keep trying. Others are counting on you to quit so they can take your job.

If your wife needs a job, and you want a better one, start with these two web sites. My friend's mom used to work at OneStop back before the Recession hit. They are good people to help ya out and may give you a personality test (can't remember if they do) to see what vocation you would be happy with:

Trident SC Works
https://jobs.scworks.org/vosnet/Default.aspx

Once you get on your feet, make a budget and stick to it. Your kids will depend on it.
 
I'm sorry to hear that dude. Can you add a bit of context like what industry you are in and is there any chance of a change?

Sure, I'm a manager at a grocery store and a police officer in the national guard. And there is always a chance for change. I'm starting school again in the spring, I had to stop after my wife got pregnant and I had to get serious with my job. Biggest mistake by far was quitting school and thinking I'd be okay. But for now I'm applying to every police department in the state.
 
Boeing is going to be hiring for a long time to come. Keep trying. Others are counting on you to quit so they can take your job.

If your wife needs a job, and you want a better one, start with these two web sites. My friend's mom used to work at OneStop back before the Recession hit. They are good people to help ya out and may give you a personality test (can't remember if they do) to see what vocation you would be happy with:

Trident SC Works
https://jobs.scworks.org/vosnet/Default.aspx

Once you get on your feet, make a budget and stick to it. Your kids will depend on it.

I'm sure going to keep trying, they are the best thing to happen around for quite some time. Thanks for the links!
 
I remember one guy who posted about becoming a Journeyman's Apprentice and how once he was "in" as a full time employee he would be making the good wages.
 
Sure its no problem, I'm 22. Life hit me young and life hit me hard.

I was there when I was younger, just a bit younger. 17 I was out on my own making a living and having to survive. Now, I'm financially stable, own my house (no mortgage), own two T4Rs (both paid for), 4 cars, and 3 motorcycles (all paid for). I'm not saying this to brag (this is the internet after all), this is just me looking back if I was talking to my 17 year old depressed self, and telling me what I would have wanted to know about the future.

I know no one wants a life story, so I'll just say what helped me the most. The thing that really helped me the most was to not listen to other people's opinions (I'll explain). So many people told me I needed this and needed that, tried to use scare tactics to get me to buy more insurance this and that, made me want to buy the latest greatest mobile phone this and that...but after being almost flat broke, I said "F*** it, and f*** you guys too." I sold my TV, my guitars, everything I had except a stove and microwave (literally). At first I felt like a total loser, having nothing to show for myself. I worked at a Chinese restaurant washing dishes making 5.15 an hour for a couple years, and went on the lucrative area of telemarketing. :( However, one thing I noticed (and yes I had a kid to take care of), was that while I was totally dirt poor in terms of possessions and wages, I had nearly no monthly expenses. $700 a month and I was clearly living expenses, including food and insurance (plus gas too when I used the car). I just cut everything else out of my life.

Now, that sounds ridiculous I know and very shortened (I made sure my family's health was ALWAYS taken care of and that we had clean water and food), but point is, even as a teenager, I didn't realize how much I thought I needed. So when I threw out everything and kept nothing but the bare essentials (like a stove and microwave), I found that after a few week adjusting period, I didn't miss it. Then, even on a crappy salary and having to raise two mouths to feed, I found that not only was I not going hungry, but I was actually saving money, just a little bit. Sure, some people might have snickered at my nearly empty apartment, but really, the floor with a pile of blankets and towels you got from wholesale at Walmart is very comfortable. Kids love it too, believe me, some of the best memories I have are from "Laundry Wars!"

I never held a "respectable" title (McDonalds worker, car washer, Taco Bell manager, assembly worker, etc), but money is money, and having no shame in what you do (as long as it provides income) is what matters. The moment I accepted that and could tell anyone with a smile that "I work at McDonalds!" and mean it, life was fantastic. I had no debt and a very stable job, not one were there ever employment cutbacks at my McDonalds and I even got promoted to Assistant Manager and started making four figure paychecks for the first time in my life. After not so long, I was surprised to find a was saving more and more.

As money seemed to get better over time, I bought things here and there (like a desk and a dinner table), but surprisingly, no bed (kid's didn't want), no TV (kids learned to play outside and how to flip broken down power tools...my girl is quite good at rebuilding electric motors although the boy discovered video games later on...) but in short, we never kept up with the Joneses and after I met my wife, we still haven't. Turns out, we don't like the Joneses anyway, and funny enough, they're the ones that are always in debt while my family and I are very well off (despite that I am only a High School dropout) and we couldn't be happier.

To this day I personally still don't have a TV (no cable bill), an iPad, my phone is 8 years old (no phone data bill, I pay $39 for 5 lines), my laptop is one of those old white Apple laptops (from 6 or 7 years ago), and food is whatever we cook.

Sorry, just going on and on and gave my life story...sorry. But the point is...you may feel down and such about not having accomplished anything, but don't worry about what other people think about you. If you are happy ultimately, and if you can find peace with having less or more (regardless), then there's nothing better. I'm still a loser, I didn't finish High School and my wife "only" has an associates degree. But we're happy and we're doing fine with what we have, regardless of what other people think about us.

We may be "wealthy" now, but even when I was dirt poor, I had no regrets about cutting back and living creatively and efficiently. It was actually the best time of my life.

Take care brotha, you're 22 and it seems like you're in a hell of a lot better situation than I was. Don't worry, it'll all be good.
 
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I was there when I was younger, just a bit younger. 17 I was out on my own making a living and having to survive. Now, I'm financially stable, own my house (no mortgage), own two T4Rs (both paid for), 4 cars, and 3 motorcycles (all paid for). I'm not saying this to brag (this is the internet after all), this is just me looking back if I was talking to my 17 year old depressed self, and telling me what I would have wanted to know about the future.

I know no one wants a life story, so I'll just say what helped me the most. The thing that really helped me the most was to not listen to other people's opinions (I'll explain). So many people told me I needed this and needed that, tried to use scare tactics to get me to buy more insurance this and that, made me want to buy the latest greatest mobile phone this and that...but after being almost flat broke, I said "F*** it, and f*** you guys too." I sold my TV, my guitars, everything I had except a stove and microwave (literally). At first I felt like a total loser, having nothing to show for myself. I worked at a Chinese restaurant washing dishes making 5.15 an hour for a couple years, and went on the lucrative area of telemarketing. :( However, one thing I noticed (and yes I had a kid to take care of), was that while I was totally dirt poor in terms of possessions and wages, I had nearly no monthly expenses. $700 a month and I was clearly living expenses, including food and insurance (plus gas too when I used the car). I just cut everything else out of my life.

Now, that sounds ridiculous I know and very shortened (I made sure my family's health was ALWAYS taken care of and that we had clean water and food), but point is, even as a teenager, I didn't realize how much I thought I needed. So when I threw out everything and kept nothing but the bare essentials (like a stove and microwave), I found that after a few week adjusting period, I didn't miss it. Then, even on a crappy salary and having to raise two mouths to feed, I found that not only was I not going hungry, but I was actually saving money, just a little bit. Sure, some people might have snickered at my nearly empty apartment, but really, the floor with a pile of blankets and towels you got from wholesale at Walmart is very comfortable. Kids love it too, believe me, some of the best memories I have are from "Laundry Wars!"

I never held a "respectable" title (McDonalds worker, car washer, Taco Bell manager, assembly worker, etc), but money is money, and having no shame in what you do (as long as it provides income) is what matters. The moment I accepted that and could tell anyone with a smile that "I work at McDonalds!" and mean it, life was fantastic. I had no debt and a very stable job, not one were there ever employment cutbacks at my McDonalds and I even got promoted to Assistant Manager and started making four figure paychecks for the first time in my life. After not so long, I was surprised to find a was saving more and more.

As money seemed to get better over time, I bought things here and there (like a desk and a dinner table), but surprisingly, no bed (kid's didn't want), no TV (kids learned to play outside and how to flip broken down power tools...my girl is quite good at rebuilding electric motors although the boy discovered video games later on...) but in short, we never kept up with the Joneses and after I met my wife, we still haven't. Turns out, we don't like the Joneses anyway, and funny enough, they're the ones that are always in debt while my family and I are very well off (despite that I am only a High School dropout) and we couldn't be happier.

To this day I personally still don't have a TV (no cable bill), an iPad, my phone is 8 years old (no phone data bill, I pay $39 for 5 lines), my laptop is one of those old white Apple laptops (from 6 or 7 years ago), and food is whatever we cook.

Sorry, just going on and on and gave my life story...sorry. But the point is...you may feel down and such about not having accomplished anything, but don't worry about what other people think about you. If you are happy ultimately, and if you can find peace with having less or more (regardless), then there's nothing better. I'm still a loser, I didn't finish High School and my wife "only" has an associates degree. But we're happy and we're doing fine with what we have, regardless of what other people think about us.

We may be "wealthy" now, but even when I was dirt poor, I had no regrets about cutting back and living creatively and efficiently. It was actually the best time of my life.

Take care brotha, you're 22 and it seems like you're in a hell of a lot better situation than I was. Don't worry, it'll all be good.

This guy is right on it too. Like he said Troutsrunner you're still really young and are already showing wisdom about your future.

Another helpful resource is Dave Ramsey - The Total Money Makeover. Or just his advice in general. That's what my wife and I used to get things turned around a few years back when we were in the hole. It's similar to what Ask10 just said.
 
The fact that you've taken stock of your situation exhibits maturity beyond your years.

Being a decent parent, provider, spouse and employee is a lot of responsibility. And so, you're not alone!
 
IMHO, the only way to freedom is being your own boss. Otherwise, you're only building somebody else's dream.
 
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IMHO, the only way to freedom is being your own boss. Otherwise, you're only building somebody else's dream.

I definitely wish I could be my own boss. One day when i have enough capital ill try to be. I know it sounds dumb because everyone on here says it but i would really love to open my own fabrication shop. I've got everything but a welder and a plasma cutter, i had to sell that stuff to keep on keepin on.
 
Try a big city police department. They will train you, and will have overtime jobs you can work (security work) so you can build up your nest egg. Small towns are boring and there's little opportunity to advance to detective or forensic tech. You can always take your certification and work in a small town later, if you really love mostly doing traffic enforcement. I selected the biggest city you probably live near:

Charleston, SC - Official Website - Employment

Good luck.
 
move to north dakota. They are begging for people to come work. $15/hr at mcdonalds...

I know that it would be culture shock moving from SC to ND but the juice might be worth the squeeze.

If things are not working where you are at, look elsewhere. That's what I did.


Life is a game. Learn the rules. Win life.
 
move to north dakota. They are begging for people to come work. $15/hr at mcdonalds...

I know that it would be culture shock moving from SC to ND but the juice might be worth the squeeze.

If things are not working where you are at, look elsewhere. That's what I did.


Life is a game. Learn the rules. Win life.

HAH well i never thought McDonald would pay that much but i make 17 an hour at food-lion.
 
Try a big city police department. They will train you, and will have overtime jobs you can work (security work) so you can build up your nest egg. Small towns are boring and there's little opportunity to advance to detective or forensic tech. You can always take your certification and work in a small town later, if you really love mostly doing traffic enforcement. I selected the biggest city you probably live near:

Charleston, SC - Official Website - Employment

Good luck.

I actually live in Charleston now and the police departments are full, that's why its taking forever for anything to happen. I have 4 years of military police experience which is more than enough for most departments around here, maybe not Charleston city, i think they like 6 years experience.
 
HAH well i never thought McDonald would pay that much but i make 17 an hour at food-lion.

I wasn't suggesting you go there to work the mcdonalds counter. But if they are making $15/hr imagine what the food-lion manager is making... just a thought.
 
Some good suggestions so far, but I'd like to add a different slant.

First, take stock in what you DO have. Now I'm not going to beat you over the head with the whole "starving kids in Africa" thing, but really think about it. You're most likely sitting in an air conditioned house, typing on an expensive computer, with a high speed internet connection to commiserate with co-members of a forum you have enough spare time to participate in that revolves around doing expensive and often unnecessary upgrades to what some folks consider an over-priced vehicle to begin with.

Please don't think I'm accusing you of whining about it, but I know when times seem tough it's easy to overlook how good we have it. Add to the above that you have what I'm sure you consider to be beautiful wife and wonderful kids. Both things that many men your age, hell, twice your age only wish they had.

Chin up bud. Embrace the good. It's not even a question of the glass being half full or half empty. Just that the glass is too damn big! You, me, all of us have plenty and more than we need. We've just been conned into thinking that we deserve, or are somehow owed, more than we've earned.

When I was 22, I was piss poor broke. Paying for college by driving a cab at night. I literally only had enough money for Ramen noodles and Peanut butter. And did not own a vehicle at all. You are WAY ahead of the game compared to that.

However, I do have some advice. Invest in yourself. Education is the most sure fire way to get to where you want to be. Look long term. Don't think about this year or next, look ten years down the line. Education, whether college, advanced degree, or trade school will be costly and time consuming. When you're 30, 40, or beyond you'll be glad you did. Sacrifice now, when you're young. And believe me 22 is young.

Sorry if I'm coming across as a jerk. Just trying to add perspective.
 
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A lot of good info here about lifestyle choices and the associated costs, but here's something else to consider... try to find a way to make money off of something you enjoy. It's easier said than done, of course, but it's a way of making some extra cash as well as being your own boss. Plus, turning your hobby into a income generator (as opposed to an expense!) gives you a financial reward for doing something you love - just don't get burned out on it or you'll lose interest in your hobby! Good luck with everything - hope it all works out for you and don't give up!
 
move to north dakota. They are begging for people to come work. $15/hr at mcdonalds...

The prices for essentials; Food, housing, etc. also reflect that. Ie: That high fast food wage is diluted by it's actual buying power.

The same thing would happen to those deluded Fast Food workers that are striking for $15 an hour minimum wage. A good portion would be layed off immediately, the few left would have to work harder, and they would find their money still doesn't go very far, as prices for everything rise to be able to pay that wage.
 

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