Yellow fog lights versus white fog lights?
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InterGalactic
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One thing these articles seem to ignore is the fact that fog lamp is somewhat of a misnomer. A more appropriate term is inclement weather lamp. The situation in which yellow fogs really pull through is very wet road. Still, it has less to do with scattering and "penetrating" fog, and more to do with the fact that the light reflected back at you is a shorter wavelength, which compromises your nightvision to a lesser degree. As was pointed out in one of the articles, red is out of the question. It's the same reason all our interior lighting is amber. Why the idiots at honda keep making those pure white clusters is beyond me.
And if the light filter losses argument is holding anyone back, consider that 2500-3000k HIDs have no filter element, just different salts in the capsule. Also, higher-wattage bulbs counteract this, like the 100W narva yellowstars in my PIAA 540s (still waiting to be installed, unfortunately). I wouldn't recommend, however, tossing high-wattage dichroic bulb onto a factory wire harness.
And if the light filter losses argument is holding anyone back, consider that 2500-3000k HIDs have no filter element, just different salts in the capsule. Also, higher-wattage bulbs counteract this, like the 100W narva yellowstars in my PIAA 540s (still waiting to be installed, unfortunately). I wouldn't recommend, however, tossing high-wattage dichroic bulb onto a factory wire harness.
bonedoctor
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I didn't have much experience with my JAOS lights in fog, but they were very effective on wet or snowy roads in Colorado. Interestingly, when I first turn them on, they appear to be quite "yellow" to the eye, but after a minute or two, they don't appear to be as yellow. Guess it's my eyes adjusting to the light.
Objects appear a certain color because they don't absorb that color, but rather reflect it. I remember reading a story years ago about a city's new fire engines that were supposedly painted with a highly visible paint, but the city street lights were something like sodium lamps and didn't have much output at that wavelength, so the paint didn't "pop". Result was that the trucks became very hard to see at night.
Since the JAOS lights put out a more yellowish light and those orange/yellow road signs appear that color because they reflect those wavelengths, my lights will just about melt your retinas when the high beams hit those yellowish signs.
I bought the lights for bad weather and was very happy with their performance on wet and snowy roads.
Also, used to have a 1985 BMW 535i. It had red/orange dash lights that were supposed to be easier on the eyes for night driving. Critics would always deride those dash lights back then, but look at most dash lights today. Guess BMW was onto something.
Objects appear a certain color because they don't absorb that color, but rather reflect it. I remember reading a story years ago about a city's new fire engines that were supposedly painted with a highly visible paint, but the city street lights were something like sodium lamps and didn't have much output at that wavelength, so the paint didn't "pop". Result was that the trucks became very hard to see at night.
Since the JAOS lights put out a more yellowish light and those orange/yellow road signs appear that color because they reflect those wavelengths, my lights will just about melt your retinas when the high beams hit those yellowish signs.
I bought the lights for bad weather and was very happy with their performance on wet and snowy roads.
Also, used to have a 1985 BMW 535i. It had red/orange dash lights that were supposed to be easier on the eyes for night driving. Critics would always deride those dash lights back then, but look at most dash lights today. Guess BMW was onto something.
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THOSE IDIOTS AT HONDA PAY SCIENTIFIC EXPERTS TO FIGURE THESE THINGS OUT THE SAME AS THE SCIENTIST IN THOSE ARTICLES.I AM ONE TO THINK THAT WHAT THEY ARE EXPLAINING IS CORRECTMAND THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN WHAT YOUR SAYING INTO ACCOUNT THUS PRODUCING THEIR FINDINGS.IT IS AS I HAVE STATED,USE WHAT YOU LIKE OR HAVE CONFIDENCE IN.InterGalactic said:
InterGalactic
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TRADICLES said:
No, they pay marketing experts to figure out what people will buy. People pay for white illumination because it looks cool, and because most of them are ignorant to the biological rod/cone structure of the retina and how it works.
bonedoctor
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TRADICLES said:
If for no other reason than it makes your postings difficult to read, especially if they're many sentences long.
sorry but it's just old habit.i do the one finger method and get tired of going from lower case to caps for names and things. how about i stay in lower case.bonedoctor said:If for no other reason than it makes your postings difficult to read, especially if they're many sentences long.
greasefingers
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My stock ones are useless. I can see no better with them on when fog is present.
bonedoctor
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TRADICLES said:sorry but it's just old habit.i do the one finger method and get tired of going from lower case to caps for names and things. how about i stay in lower case.
Either way, it makes it more difficult for the eye to see the start of sentences and things tend to run together into one long sentence. But if you're doing the hunt-and-peck, I guess use whatever works.
Blast from the past, indeed!
I had 'em on a '76 Renault LeCar, a 76 Peugeot 504, and a '76 TransAm. Really, really liked them, both for illumination and for the sophisticated optics.
I had 'em on a '76 Renault LeCar, a 76 Peugeot 504, and a '76 TransAm. Really, really liked them, both for illumination and for the sophisticated optics.
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