Yes yet another lift question.

[Jdog]

I am looking into a lift and dont have the money to spend on a king or icon stage 5. I would be able to get the bilstein lift.
My question is toytec's bilstein 5100 lift is $1011 and yotamafia has the bilstein 5100 lift for $759, with a couple of spring options. Does the toytec kit come with anything special, besides the diff drop? There's a bit of a difference in price for what looks to be similar kit.

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

Post links to the 2 kits you're looking at.

 

[Jdog]

1: https://yotamafia.com/product/5th-gen-4runner-lift-2009-present/
2: https://www.toyteclifts.com/ttha-ck-rcc-3-lift-w-bilstein-5100-front-coilovers-fj-4runner-gx.html

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

OK so big difference. The ToyTec kit comes assembled and doesn't require any special tools. The yotamafia kit does not come assembled and does require special tools. IMO, safe your $ for a little longer and go with the adjustable shocks so you can level your truck out side to side without the need for spacers. It's really not that much more and the adjustability makes a big difference.

https://www.toyteclifts.com/ul-fj210-2010-fj-cruiser-4runner-ultimate-3-lift-package.html

 

[Jdog]

Yea i have been looking at that kit as well. I started looking at the yota mafia because its cheap and assembling the struts is not a big problem. But i do forget about loading the truck down for a adventure and the ability to adjust the coil.

That and i every once in a while hear about toytec struts needing rebuilt.

 

[Angelo]

I am looking into a lift and dont have the money to spend on a king or icon stage 5. I would be able to get the bilstein lift.
My question is toytec's bilstein 5100 lift is $1011 and yotamafia has the bilstein 5100 lift for $759, with a couple of spring options. Does the toytec kit come with anything special, besides the diff drop? There's a bit of a difference in price for what looks to be similar kit.

You'll find that price variation all over. I believe Toytech uses Eibach springs, while the YotaMafia kit uses OME - note that the OME REAR springs are limited to HD med or heavy added weight, which will ride pretty rough without a bumper / tire carrier / gear in the cargo area.

You could also get the same 5100 complete set from Total Automotive ($360 and free shipping last I looked) and use your stock coils and a spacer in the rear OR part out the springs to exactly the lift you want from Dobinson's.

Don't forget to add in the cost of an alignment, usually around $100, after you mess with the suspension at all. A diff drop kit is essentially a spacer and longer bolt for like $40 and you can get one from just about anywhere (Toytech, Dobinsons, etc.) and is usually only necessary at the 3" lift mark.

Edit for further response: the adjustable coils would be really nice if you can swing the extra few hundred bucks, but don't be afraid of the "special tools" thing; if you were gonna do the install yourself the tools are easy to learn to use, and if you were gonna have a shop do the install it'd still be pretty cheap to have them do the assembly.

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

Loading the truck down has nothing to do with adjustability. That's just to adjust front ride height only to level it out and achieve however much or little lift you want. As for assembling the struts, you do need a wall mount spring compressor to do it correctly and safely. You also have to reuse your original top hats which is not a big deal. Yes there are ways to disassemble the struts that are not so kosher but that's an enter at your own risk kind of deal. If you're thinking a simple set of spring compressors will work, think again. How much lift are you looking for and what size tire to you plan to run?

 

[Jdog]

Loading the truck down has nothing to do with adjustability. That's just to adjust front ride height only to level it out and achieve however much or little lift you want. As for assembling the struts, you do need a wall mount spring compressor to do it correctly and safely. You also have to reuse your original top hats which is not a big deal. Yes there are ways to disassemble the struts that are not so kosher but that's an enter at your own risk kind of deal. If you're thinking a simple set of spring compressors will work, think again. How much lift are you looking for and what size tire to you plan to run?

Oh yeah. There is really nothing on the truck i cant fix or take care off myself, really know my way around a set of open ends. I just didn't know it toytec includes anything special or the added cost was the assembly. Really just looking for 2-3 in lift. Not looking for insane just enough that gets the truck some clearance and looking to put 285/70/17 possibly depends, like those new bfg km3 but also live in a partial snowy climate and have had a lot of luck with duratracs. But around about 285/70/17.

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

285/70/17 is the most common size and will require slight trimming to avoid rubbing. Wheel choice will determine the need for a BMC. You should also think about new upper control arms for anything over a 2" lift so you can get a proper alignment. With that said, my personal opinion is the TT Ultimate kit is the best bang for your buck due to the adjustability and bolt in and go convenience. There is nothing wrong with either of the other 2 kits though. Just order a small spacer for the DS so it sits level once installed.

 

[Jdog]

Yeah thanks man.
I want to use toytec but just don't have any experience with longevity of there products. And as always saving a dollar or two is nice whilst in school.

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

There's not much difference. Eibach has been around forever and makes a quality spring. Both use the same shocks so you're getting the exact same thing there.

 

[A10MileHusker]

I have had excellent service from Toytec. Their product and customer service is top notch.

I personally would also go with the adjustable coils. I ran the Toytec Spacer lift on my 05 and then eventually switched to the Adjustable coils so I ended up spending more money in the long run just because I didn't want to drop the coin the first go round.

Thats just my 2 cents.

As well as Go Big Red!