Going from a 3rg Gen 4R to a 5th Gen - headroom with moonroof?

RobS10

RobS10

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We have had a 3rd Gen 4R with a moonroof since 2004. I remember being annoyed with the headroom when we first bought it, but eventually found a seat position that works and don't even think about it anymore. When we hopped into a 2022 SR5, it was deja vu all over again. I played with the seat a little, but didn't seem to help enough. We came back a couple weeks later and the only vehicle on the lot that day with a moonroof was a Limited. I guess the last person to sit in it was my size as there was no problem with the headroom. Is the headroom somehow better on the Limited? Do the seats in a Limited have more adjustments than those in an ORP? Or more to the point, is the headroom less in a 5th Gen with a moonroof than a 3rd? While we rarely open it, I love it on the occasions that we do.
 
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I wouldn't buy a 4Runner without a moonroof.

In my 3rd gen, I had just enough headroom with the seat adjusted the way I wanted it.

I never bought a 4th gen, because it had less headroom than my 3rd gen.

My TRD ORP has more headroom than my 3rd gen.

My anecdotal experience.
 
02SE said:
I wouldn't buy a 4Runner without a moonroof.

In my 3rd gen, I had just enough headroom with the seat adjusted the way I wanted it.

I never bought a 4th gen, because it had less headroom than my 3rd gen.

My TRD ORP has more headroom than my 3rd gen.

My anecdotal experience.
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Just what I wanted to hear :D.
Our old SR5 has manual seats with only basic adjustments, so assume it will be easier to find the "right" position in an ORP with the multi way power seats.
Even though we rarely use it, I think we would always miss being able to open it on certain occasions, not to mention it's a great way to quickly check the load of gear on the roof rack what you're bombing down the highway on a road trip.
 
It took me awhile to find a premium without a moonroof. I would have needed quite a deal to get a moonroof model. I'm only 6 foot but long torso and don't drive with a gangster lean. My coworker has a moonroof model and in the back or passenger seats my head touches since they're not adjustable, heaven forbid going offroad in those seats. As the driver I could set it low enough but while wearing a hat or going offroad I still can bump. My wife 5', 8" drives the car a lot so I prefer to let her set the seat height and I don't need to mess with anything. Shes mostly legs so forward/backwards doesn't matter.

But I also I dislike moonroofs in general for rattles that develop, leaks, & drain block ups. Like I said if it was cheaper I'd have sucked it up and got one lol.
 
Forgetful said:
It took me awhile to find a premium without a moonroof. I would have needed quite a deal to get a moonroof model. I'm only 6 foot but long torso and don't drive with a gangster lean. My coworker has a moonroof model and in the back or passenger seats my head touches since they're not adjustable, heaven forbid going offroad in those seats. As the driver I could set it low enough but while wearing a hat or going offroad I still can bump. My wife 5', 8" drives the car a lot so I prefer to let her set the seat height and I don't need to mess with anything. Shes mostly legs so forward/backwards doesn't matter.

But I also I dislike moonroofs in general for rattles that develop, leaks, & drain block ups. Like I said if it was cheaper I'd have sucked it up and got one lol.
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I'm 6' and long torso as well, which is why I had a little trouble with our '99 initially and asking about the new ones. But have read a few posts on sunroofs now and even some folks over 6' and long torsos are able to find a good position.
As far as the back seats, they won't adjust up and down, but do recline some.

We don't have any rattles on our '99 MR and cleaning the drains hasn't been a problem. But it did develop a leak though, in the weather stripping seam in the front of the glass panel. The butt joint opened up so I squirted some "flowable" into the gap silicone sealer and fixed it.
 
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Forgetful said:
It took me awhile to find a premium without a moonroof. I would have needed quite a deal to get a moonroof model. I'm only 6 foot but long torso and don't drive with a gangster lean. My coworker has a moonroof model and in the back or passenger seats my head touches since they're not adjustable, heaven forbid going offroad in those seats. As the driver I could set it low enough but while wearing a hat or going offroad I still can bump. My wife 5', 8" drives the car a lot so I prefer to let her set the seat height and I don't need to mess with anything. Shes mostly legs so forward/backwards doesn't matter.

But I also I dislike moonroofs in general for rattles that develop, leaks, & drain block ups. Like I said if it was cheaper I'd have sucked it up and got one lol.
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Does the passenger front seat have height adjustments, or just front/back and tilt?
 
I'm 6'3'' and fit in my Pro just fine with moonroof.

Plus my son loves to cruise the neighborhood with his head sticking out of the roof lol
 
RobS10 said:
Just what I wanted to hear :D.
Our old SR5 has manual seats with only basic adjustments, so assume it will be easier to find the "right" position in an ORP with the multi way power seats.
Even though we rarely use it, I think we would always miss being able to open it on certain occasions, not to mention it's a great way to quickly check the load of gear on the roof rack what you're bombing down the highway on a road trip.
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I guess I should add I'm 6'2". I was an inch taller but time and abuse has compressed the space between joints...

Anyway, I don't like the gangster lean, I like the seatback pretty close to 90°. I have a 34" inseam. I can raise the seat high enough to hit the headliner, but prefer it a bit lower, and I don't hit my head. If I were wearing a cowboy hat or similar, headroom might be a problem.
 
02SE said:
I guess I should add I'm 6'2". I was an inch taller but time and abuse has compressed the space between joints...

Anyway, I don't like the gangster lean, I like the seatback pretty close to 90°. I have a 34" inseam. I can raise the seat high enough to hit the headliner, but prefer it a bit lower, and I don't hit my head. If I were wearing a cowboy hat or similar, headroom might be a problem.
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LOL! I used to be 6', but probably closer to 5'10" now :(.
 
never had a car w/out a moonroof.

i used to have an '89 integra w/ a moonroof... i had to lean to the side to drive it. when i got a '93 integra i cleared the roof just fine.... but my arm was near shoulder level when resting on the windowsill... to gain more headroom, the chopped the seats!

i never quite cleared in my '00 sr5, but in my '16 TEP, plenty of headroom, until someone comes and messes w/ the seat height. the multi power seats offers a huge range of adjustments.

i'm nearly 6'0".
 
Don't go by physical height

We looked at an ORP with the moonroof and I didn't have enough headroom in the passenger seat. I'm 6'1", but it's how our height is embodied. Those with short legs and a long torso won't find sufficient headroom in the passenger seat.

Talked with two welding shops about modifying the seat mount but couldn't get an answer as they need to see it without the plastic covering. Toyota sucks at their seat height. Had to go without a moonroof in my 88 and 07. Momma would like one but I need adequate headroom when she drives. So, it's wait until one comes in without the moonroof.
 
someday839 said:
We looked at an ORP with the moonroof and I didn't have enough headroom in the passenger seat. I'm 6'1", but it's how our height is embodied. Those with short legs and a long torso won't find sufficient headroom in the passenger seat.

Talked with two welding shops about modifying the seat mount but couldn't get an answer as they need to see it without the plastic covering. Toyota sucks at their seat height. Had to go without a moonroof in my 88 and 07. Momma would like one but I need adequate headroom when she drives. So, it's wait until one comes in without the moonroof.
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We had that problem with our '99. I was able to recline the drivers seat just enough to keep the left side of my head from hitting the ceiling without feeling like I was leaning back too far to drive. I assume you tried that on the passenger side? I'm 5'11" with 30" inseam, so longer torso than some.
 
I still go back and forth about the moonroof, but that is mostly predicated on how the weather is in Humboldt. My ORP had a moonroof but as it had 600 miles on it before someone blew a red light and flipped it and in the aftermath I was lucky enough that my dealer went above and found a Venture with KDSS and no moonroof.
 
To the original poster you should be fine if you had a moon roof in your 3rd gen. Am 6' and have no problems with head clearance. Decided to buy mine at the last minute. Did not want a moon roof but most sliding cargo decks come with a moon roof. The sliding cargo deck keeps from scratching your paint when loading heavy, bulky items in the rear.

Been using the moon roof a lot this winter but now have started using the AC now that warmer temperatures are back here in Florida.
good luck in your search....Jim
 
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