is it me or do these BFG AT's suck in the snow?

The OP asked a simple question and I gave a simple answer. The BFG's are good for one thing, off-road. Of all the A/T tires I've owned the BFGs were the worst in snow. Even the crappy GS-A is better in the snow.


Koz

It's not a simple answer, it's a crappy answer. To just say "they suck" is useless info. For example, if you said:

They suck in the snow compared to snow tires, I'd agree with you.

Or-

They suck in the snow compared to Michelin Pilot Sport PS2, I'd laugh at you.

So instead of saying they suck, it would be helpful if we knew what you were comparing them to that makes you think they're so horrible. But that's okay, I don't think anyone really cares at this point, so carry on.
 
To handle the harsh conditions here in San Diego, the BFG AT's work great! :surfer:

I've tried several tires over the past several years with my first 1992 4x4 Toyota Pick-up, 2001 Tacoma Prerunner, and now the 4Runner.

I can see why people on the forum hate on the stock tires, cause they were complete garbage... but I just went back to BFG AT's for a reason. I head up to the mountains several times a year and have had great experiences with the BFG AT's over every other tire I've tried.

I think the rare occasions that people find that they did not perform well were in a situation where any tire probably would have "sucked."

I am on my 4th set of tires on my 4Runner that I got back in August, and am finally happy that I went back to the BFG AT's. The MT's were just too loud for me and the vibrations at highway speeds forced me to swap again since my freeway driving % is way higher than I wish it was. I had the Firestone Destination AT's before that and were great, but still not as nice as the BFG AT's in my opinion (Looks and off-road ability, but the on-road the performance was equal). The tires before that were stock Bridgestones, and I doubt you will find anyone here who will back those puppies up.
 
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To handle the harsh conditions here in San Diego, the BFG AT's work great! :surfer:

I've tried several tires over the past several years with my first 1992 4x4 Toyota Pick-up, 2001 Tacoma Prerunner, and now the 4Runner.

I can see why people on the forum hate on the stock tires, cause they were complete garbage... but I just went back to BFG AT's for a reason. I head up to the mountains several times a year and have had great experiences with the BFG AT's over every other tire I've tried.

I think the rare occasions that people find that they did not perform well were in a situation where any tire probably would have "sucked."

I am on my 4th set of tires on my 4Runner that I got back in August, and am finally happy that I went back to the BFG AT's. The MT's were just too loud for me and the vibrations at highway speeds forced me to swap again since my freeway driving % is way higher than I wish it was. I had the Firestone Destination AT's before that and were great, but still not as nice as the BFG AT's in my opinion (Looks and off-road ability, but the on-road the performance was equal). The tires before that were stock Bridgestones, and I doubt you will find anyone here who will back those puppies up.

I agree with you completely, for what you use your vehicle for, the BFGs will shine. You may want to try the Duratrac next time.

Koz
 
Im going to chime in here ......

To the orig. poster and his question . I really dont think you can go wrong with either 3 that are on your list.

For the other war being discussed.........
I have had 15 or so sets of BFG AT's starting in 1985. (my Uncle was VP there so.... free tires) At the time I thought they worked well , but as time went on my opinion changed. I found them to have bad wet road traction , bad wet off road traction and poor street manners . Off roading in dry/dirt or rocky conditions they were good tires . Never ever had a flat or puncture. I will not buy them again . (personal preference)

When i got my 4TH gen. 4x4 06 V8 Sport I switched to a new tire with in a day . Mostly because of this board and wanting to upsize . I purchased Bridgestone Dueler Revos (Gen 1) P265/70/17. I did not like the look of them as to me they look like an aggressive all season tire than an all terrain tire , but I gave them a shot . great ride , great wet , great dry , minimal off road ability. They were ok in snow , but was disappointed as I think they were over hyped in that area. Had numerous flats ect... off road i did not trust them at all . As soon as it was a little wet or mud it was all over. Overall it was a good tire , had good street manners , good milage and always got me back home . would I buy them again .... possible , but doubtful at this time.

5th gen , I switched off my stock tire and was in a hurry because of weather and went with Firestone Dest AT's . Its probably the best one I've had so far . Same UNI-T compound as Revo's , more aggressive style , good in snow , wet rain , not so much in mud , but none of these listed are a mud tire. I feel better about the FS AT's than I did with BFG's or the Revo's (cant comment on Revo2, since I never had them) . Will I buy again.... possible , but doubtful at this time only because I would like to try the GYSA, Duratec's or Nitto TG's .

There are a lot of good AT's on the market now compared to years ago when it was mainly BFG's market. I personally think BFG has been riding there own coat tails for to long and has really slipped in new tire technology and compounds and development. Although looks wise its the best looking AT on the market. The best RWL imo (if your into that).

Remember that this is just MY experience. Every part of the country has different types of pavement , mud and snow that they drive in so what might work well form some in Colorado might not be the best choice for someone in New England. Thats what makes it so hard to pick a good one since SO much depends on a tires performance , from air pressure , altitude , dry or wet snows , pavement type , personal driving habits , and so on.......
 
I am on my 4th set of tires on my 4Runner that I got back in August, and am finally happy that I went back to the BFG AT's.

Me too! Went from the stock Geolanders, to Hankook Dynapro ATs, then Nitto Trail Grappler MTs, and couldn't be happier with my Duratracs.

To the OP - my buddies with Tacomas and FJCs run BFG TA KOs (with snowflake symbol) and they've not had any issues in the snow.
 
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And those reasons include very little to do with their off road or on road capability and are mostly bought on site (because they are one of the meanest looking A/Ts out there) and most tire stores push them on anybody with a 4wd and they simply have a following and it's not like they suck and they serve their purpose off road but on-road the design is dated and they are pretty costly for their day to day performance IMO on the street and that's where they will see the most miles.
Yeah,they wear like rocks but I don't want to drive on rocks and I'll sacrifice a little treadlife for better dry and wet grip.

Here's a little story of my mom's trip to Discount Tire:

So,my mom take her stock '99 Limited 4Runner and what the salesperson recommended for her truck that will never see a real off road trail and is primarily a commuter and needed good wet/snow manners and they guy automatically suggests BFGs which IMO is overkill for my mom's truck and I;m sure they make a killing on BFGs since their markup must be pretty high.
Suffice to say I suggested something more street friendly and saved almost $300 by getting Yokohama AT/S and they've been a great street tire all year round for over two years now and no complaints.


This is part of the thing that fuels their polpularity and is why I see all these Suburbans and the like that are family haulers that sit 4" above the road (I even saw a new Highlander with 'em on;Honda Pilot anyone?) shod with BFGs which is simply a waste of money when there's better options out there and much more cost effective.

I ddin't automatically drink the BFG Kool-aid.:beer:

I think BFG needs to overhaul the design (of course maintaining a bit of the classic look) and introduce an updated version of the 20+ year old design.

And they did!:horn:
 
HAHAHA....I love it when theres a group buy 4 years ago and somebody jumps on and asks to be put on the list.
 
diehard BFG fans swear by these tires and tests and ratings have shown that they do poorly in the snow compared to a duratrac and select others.. and i've sounded like a broken record over time telling ppl that there are many better options over BFG's.. that's why i'm hesitant to buy the new K02 tire.. because the tread aside from the sidewalls looks the exact same as their 25+yr old design
 
diehard BFG fans swear by these tires and tests and ratings have shown that they do poorly in the snow compared to a duratrac and select others.. and i've sounded like a broken record over time telling ppl that there are many better options over BFG's.. that's why i'm hesitant to buy the new K02 tire.. because the tread aside from the sidewalls looks the exact same as their 25+yr old design
nope. they aren't.




I don't know how the new ones will work, but the old style were great in the snow. hell, they are great all around.
 

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