1989 22RE 4runner

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Ok guys I just basically agreed a deal to go pick up my new runner tomorrow :reddance: problem is...guy said the timing chain is loose and he lives 1 hour away. He told me it would be very risky to try and drive it back. What I'm wondering is, should I take the risk and drive it back? and second how bad is it if the timing chain is loose? am i gonna need to replace it? or just tighten it?...please give me some responses!! I appreciate any info you guys can give me!! thanks.
 
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If the timing chain is loose; two likely issues are:

The chain itself has stretched and the tensioner is maxed out (won't/can't put anymore tension on the chain). Or the tensioner itself is faulty. Either way, a timing chain replacement is in order. However, if the owner is hearing a slapping noise at start-up; it could be that one of the guides has broken (this happened on mine).

Only way to know for sure is to pull the valve cover and take a look. Oh and, no, the chain can't be tightened.
 
so driving it home is out of the question right? how much would it cost to replace the chain if I do it myself? How many parts will I need to change with it? Thanks for the info man I really apprecaite your response!
 
Maybe a friend with AAA or something similar could help you out?
Just trying to save you a dollar
 
Thanks I appreciate the suggestion. I've been calling a few friends, hopefully I can find someone who does it for cheap.
 
so driving it home is out of the question right? how much would it cost to replace the chain if I do it myself? How many parts will I need to change with it? Thanks for the info man I really apprecaite your response!

Whether it's safe to drive depends on whether the chain itself is loose or just has a broken guide. If the guide is broken, then the chain is slapping against the timing cover, which has a water jacket - if it wears through (and if you give it enough time it certainly will) you'll mix your oil and coolant and then you'll HAVE to get it towed - risky, sure, but if the fellow hasn't been driving around on it much you'll probably make it. If the chain itself is physically loose, either due to stretching or a busted tensioner, then you run the risk of damaging your valves (or if it breaks, potentially destroying them), and in that case I wouldn't drive it at all unless you're ready to rebuild the head as well as replace the timing chain.

Before you tear into the timing, you'll want to get a copy of the Factory Service Manual (check the links up top) and a Chiltons or Haynes manual too. They'll break down the timing chain service in detail, but if I remember right you'll pull the fan and belts, break the crank pulley bolt free, drain the oil, drain and remove the radiator, remove the intake plenum and exhaust manifold, remove the valve cover, remove the head, detach (but don't remove) the AC and power steering pump, remove the water pump, remove the timing chain cover, replace the chain and guides, put it all back together. It's an all day job if you know what you're doing, I know it would take me at least two, more if I hit any snags.

As long as you have the head off, consider taking it to an automotive machine shop and having it checked out. Rebuilding the head just for the heck of it is not completely out of the question considering what a PITA it is to remove it, and the unknown history of the truck. I'd get the fuel injectors cleaned and balanced too. A timing chain set and top end kit from engnbldr.com will have all the gaskets you need, order new head bolts too just to be safe. The guy at engnbldr knows his stuff and likes to answer questions, so don't be afraid to talk his ear off.

Cost wise, I spent under $200 pulling and replacing the head on my 22re, and that included the top end gasket kit and getting my head checked out at the shop. You'll be buying a timing set as well (and maybe a timing chain), but you'll still probably come in under $400 including the fresh oil and coolant and all the other various sundries. By comparison, a shop will probably charge you at least $1000.
 
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Pick up a tow trailer from Uhaul and borrow a friends truck to tow it with. The trailer will only cost $50 for a day.
 
I appreciate all the suggestions guys. I managed to find a dolley for $30 bucks and I towed it back with my 4CYL 2WD 4runner!! and it had no problems whatsoever! Real proud of my runner! But I absolutely love my new 89 Runner! heres a couple of pics, il post the rest of them in my build thread!
 

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