texasrunner2011
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Just wanted to see if there were any more pictures/additions with the limited and 20in wheels. I have a MGM and will be doing the daystar soon with the tires...just want to make sure its the right move! :cowboy:
20 inch wheels on LIMITED
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DannyLlama
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Has anyone seen the rims on the Sequoia's they are pretty similar to the 4R but seem to fit the 275/55 20 Just fine. I might go that route!
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275 on 7" rims, NO!
I love the 5th gen 4Runner Limited, for its utility, design, and functions/features, however, I came from an X5 sport, so I'm used to more of the sport side of SUV versus the U side, and the narrow rims/tires has really bothered me. Unfortunately, I really like(d) the look of the OE Limited wheels, and I WILL NOT put too big a tire on these skinny rims. I do not recommend anyone else doing so either -- you're just putting too much pressure on the tire bead under load. Might never be a problem, but it "could". I finally found a wheel that looks even better and still retains the spirit of the OE -- the Black Rhino Zambia. Unfortunately, it took my tire shop 6 months to get their hands on a set for the T4R, but I got them TODAY, and everything is PERFECT. I'm running the TOYO Proxes ST in 275/55-20. I spend 80-90% of my time on the road, and very little in severe off road; most off-roading is gravel, dirt/mud and a little snow every once in a while. Zero rubbing -- tested hard too.
The Zambia's are 9" wide, and the tire fits perfectly, with no "stress" on the sidewall or bead. Plus, the car drives like the X5 now -- much better steering feedback, sure footed, and NONE of that uncertainty I felt when making a "quick" lane change before (not that a truck is a spots car, but sometimes you have to).
These were not terribly expensive wheels either, so I don't feel like a made a bad investment, especially based on how fantastic the T4R feels (and looks) now.
Hope that helps someone...
Bret
I love the 5th gen 4Runner Limited, for its utility, design, and functions/features, however, I came from an X5 sport, so I'm used to more of the sport side of SUV versus the U side, and the narrow rims/tires has really bothered me. Unfortunately, I really like(d) the look of the OE Limited wheels, and I WILL NOT put too big a tire on these skinny rims. I do not recommend anyone else doing so either -- you're just putting too much pressure on the tire bead under load. Might never be a problem, but it "could". I finally found a wheel that looks even better and still retains the spirit of the OE -- the Black Rhino Zambia. Unfortunately, it took my tire shop 6 months to get their hands on a set for the T4R, but I got them TODAY, and everything is PERFECT. I'm running the TOYO Proxes ST in 275/55-20. I spend 80-90% of my time on the road, and very little in severe off road; most off-roading is gravel, dirt/mud and a little snow every once in a while. Zero rubbing -- tested hard too.
The Zambia's are 9" wide, and the tire fits perfectly, with no "stress" on the sidewall or bead. Plus, the car drives like the X5 now -- much better steering feedback, sure footed, and NONE of that uncertainty I felt when making a "quick" lane change before (not that a truck is a spots car, but sometimes you have to).
These were not terribly expensive wheels either, so I don't feel like a made a bad investment, especially based on how fantastic the T4R feels (and looks) now.
Hope that helps someone...
Bret
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DannyLlama
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Dude - you are my FN HERO!
This is exactly what I want , OEM look with tires that fit the rim..
2 questions 1. How much 2. Where from? Link?
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I hoped somebody would like my choice! I got the wheels and tires as a package for about $2000 from Butler Tire in Atlanta, Ga (the Sandy Springs location on Roswell Rd.) My contacts there are Barry and Craig. However, please note that these wheels come from the mfg at Truck Wheels and Off Road Wheels by Black Rhino and they have been really hard to get. See:
Truck Wheels and Off Road Wheels by Black Rhino - Inventory Results
I have seen them on several web sites, but until you order them, you probably won't know that they are not available. The prices I have seen on eBay are comparable to, but not better than, other wheel sites. These wheels should be around $235 a piece, if you can find them. I got wheels, mounting, balancing, high-speed check, nitrogen (BS, imho), new lug nuts (cuz they are different from the OE wheels), a new lug wrench, and the FANTASTIC (so far) Toyo Proxes ST II tires for about 2K. And I was pretty happy, but I can't guarantee that anyone else can get that price, but at least you can reference the "deal". (Please note that I have 5 cars and I am a frequent customer of this shop, including track tires from time-to-time, so I might get some "deals" that others may find hard to match.)
My 3-day review is as follows:
With old wheels/tires:
1. turn-in was very iffy, with severe under steer, especially if over 25MPH or under moderate or above braking (like on an exit ramp)
2. squeal under any moderate or above load
3. very loose steering feel
4. 0% feedback from steering "feel"
5. at least 17mph gas mileage
With New wheels/tires:
1. turn-in feels GREAT, with very little/predictable under steer, even at "relatively higher" speeds (my daily exit ramp said 45MPH max, but was only comfortable before at 25-30MPH, but now it feels just fine at 45-50MPH)
2. Squeal-schmeal, we don't need no stinking squeal -- I love the Toyo tires, I think (so far)
3. the steering feels WAY FIRMER (but is this just my imagination?, I don't know, but "I think" it feels great)
4. steering feed back is very nice -- not X5 4.4si -- but very respectable and very communicative
5. Don't have anything to compare to yet, cuz I have a few 100 miles so far. I plan to reset the MPG in the morning and let it run for a few months, so I will update mid-summer with a comparison, but anyone that expects a 25% wider tire to NOT lower their MPG is dreaming!
My ONE AND ONLY ONE complaint for the 5th gen T4R Limited was the wheels/tires, so I feel like I have solved that problem. I am very happy, and I am willing to help anybody with the same concerns decide on a suitable replacement wheel/tire combination, and I am also happy to connect anyone with "my" tire guys, with absolutely NO expectation of any compensation (of course, I also accept no responsibility!)
The one thing that is certainly subjective, to some degree, is that I think this truck looks f'ing fantastic with these wheels and tires, but somewhere, there is also someone that thinks a Pontiac Aztec looks good (in other words, beauty is in the eye of the beholder)...
Here is the contact information for Butler Tire in Atlanta (if you are not in or around Atlanta, I can't imagine this information is useful, but I leave that as an exercise for the reader):
Butler Tire
404-303-1114
Craig Dobrin or Barry Mervis
~~bret
275/55/20 Tires fit 20x7 stock OE wheels
I did extensive research and found tires that fit perfectly AND look great on the 20x7 rims that come with the 4runner Limited. They are: "Continental CrossContact LX20 with EcoPlus Technology". These tires are made to fit rims 7" wide. Since I had these tires installed, I have noticed less road noise, a much smoother ride, and better highway gas mileage. In addition, they look much better and the width of the tire actually matches the width of the vehicle. The tires also have a 70,000 mile warranty whereas the Yokohama tires don't have any warranty at all. I have included a link to the Tire Rack website where I discovered the tires. Link: Continental CrossContact LX20 with EcoPlus Technology
After riding with these tires for abouty 1000 miles now, my average gas mileage has increased, the ride is more comfortable and quiet, and they don't look like bicycle tires on it! I have no idea as to why Toyota decided to put the skinny 245's on this truck. Also, this Continental tire is about $150 less per tire than the Yokohama Geolander which is the factory equipment.
I did extensive research and found tires that fit perfectly AND look great on the 20x7 rims that come with the 4runner Limited. They are: "Continental CrossContact LX20 with EcoPlus Technology". These tires are made to fit rims 7" wide. Since I had these tires installed, I have noticed less road noise, a much smoother ride, and better highway gas mileage. In addition, they look much better and the width of the tire actually matches the width of the vehicle. The tires also have a 70,000 mile warranty whereas the Yokohama tires don't have any warranty at all. I have included a link to the Tire Rack website where I discovered the tires. Link: Continental CrossContact LX20 with EcoPlus Technology
After riding with these tires for abouty 1000 miles now, my average gas mileage has increased, the ride is more comfortable and quiet, and they don't look like bicycle tires on it! I have no idea as to why Toyota decided to put the skinny 245's on this truck. Also, this Continental tire is about $150 less per tire than the Yokohama Geolander which is the factory equipment.
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DannyLlama
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^ Nice find bud... too bad they are not A/T tires.
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Those tires look nice...
I think those tires look good too. I still feel like the 9" wide wheel is a more "solid" solution, but this looks like a good compromise. I like the OE wheel look too, and if they were 8" wide I would have kept them, but 7" just didn't do it for me, imho...
I think those tires look good too. I still feel like the 9" wide wheel is a more "solid" solution, but this looks like a good compromise. I like the OE wheel look too, and if they were 8" wide I would have kept them, but 7" just didn't do it for me, imho...
20x9 rims and 275/55R20s will fit with only a slight provided you don't go with an aggressive tire. I went with the Michelin M/S2. you can see in the picture where it rubs and I plan on removing the splash shield that seems to be affected. It is a splash shield on top of a splash shield....doesn't seem that important ;-)
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Anyone ever go with the 265/50/20? I know the terra grappler comes in that size.
clin9383
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do these throw off the mileage or speedo? any rubbing at full lock or anything?
zepjet
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Continental CrossContact LX20
I purchased these tires some time ago after researching possible alternatives for the stock tires. Consumer Reports rates these tires #1 in their Nov 2011 tire review (tied with the Michellin LTX M/S2 as the best overall SUV all-season tire). Tire Rack also rates them highly. Don't confuse these with the CrossContact LX tires that are not rated quite as well. They are not an offroad or winter tire. As mentioned, they have a 70k mile warranty and a 1 year road hazard warranty.
Since the diameter is about 0.3" larger and the circumference is about 1" longer than the OEM tires, the speedometer is off by roughly 1%. Insignificant especially considering that eventual wear will bring the speedometer reading ever closer to the factory calibration. There is no rubbing in either direction (forward/reverse, left/right). I purchased them from a Ford dealership where they match any advertised price including online.
There is a noticable improvement in handling with these tires. They are quieter and smoother than the OEM Bridgestones. Steering feedback is stiffer and less numb. The ride is more planted and solid. Braking and cornering are also improved. They are noted for the wet weather performance. No issues with balancing. I have not noticed any change in fuel economy although I seldom check mpg's. They are the single, biggest improvement in driving performance I have experienced.
I purchased these tires some time ago after researching possible alternatives for the stock tires. Consumer Reports rates these tires #1 in their Nov 2011 tire review (tied with the Michellin LTX M/S2 as the best overall SUV all-season tire). Tire Rack also rates them highly. Don't confuse these with the CrossContact LX tires that are not rated quite as well. They are not an offroad or winter tire. As mentioned, they have a 70k mile warranty and a 1 year road hazard warranty.
Since the diameter is about 0.3" larger and the circumference is about 1" longer than the OEM tires, the speedometer is off by roughly 1%. Insignificant especially considering that eventual wear will bring the speedometer reading ever closer to the factory calibration. There is no rubbing in either direction (forward/reverse, left/right). I purchased them from a Ford dealership where they match any advertised price including online.
There is a noticable improvement in handling with these tires. They are quieter and smoother than the OEM Bridgestones. Steering feedback is stiffer and less numb. The ride is more planted and solid. Braking and cornering are also improved. They are noted for the wet weather performance. No issues with balancing. I have not noticed any change in fuel economy although I seldom check mpg's. They are the single, biggest improvement in driving performance I have experienced.
The CrossContact LX 20's do not rub at all, even at full lock. The factory tire diameter is 31.6" and these tires are 31.9". I don't think that such a small increase in diameter will have a noticable effect on MPH. I live in Pittsburgh, where nothing is flat and was averaging 16.5 MPG with the Yokohama Geolanders. Now, with the CrossContact LX 20, averaging over 17.5 MPG. I'll also post front/back photos shortly.
probos
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So these Continental's are 275/55's? If so this is probably the route I will go -- 98% of the driving I do is road so these tires would suite me well. Plus they look great and your 4Runner looks exactly like mine so it's like seeing what mine will look like in the future.
DannyLlama
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I just realized I posted on the wrong forum.
Has anyone seen the Sequoia rims? 20" X 8".
Looks nice - thoughts?
Has anyone seen the Sequoia rims? 20" X 8".
Looks nice - thoughts?
Jaker
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Those do look like a good alternative.
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