Snooperstyle
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Maybe I missed it, but where is the Smart Key system? Would that be available on all trims? That would be nice. I love mine.
2014 4Runner
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Agreed, smart key should be available on the Premium... especially in light of my next point...
So, the biggest thing I've noticed from the spec sheet is this:
"Transfer Case (High/Low) 1.0/2.566 (4x4 SR5, Trail only)"
Toyota is really removing the low range from the Limited?!?! I was never in the market for a Limited in the first place, but why bother with keeping solid rear axle and body on frame (and heck, RWD architecture) if you are getting rid of low range??? To me, that is one of the hallmarks of a 4Runner. You can choose your dressing how you like (SR5, TE, Limited), but the chassis, driveline, and basic suspension are no different than you'd find on a truck. At least the Limited still allows you to lock the center diff. I guess you will have 4H and 4LH as the dial options on the Limited (why not a push button like, I think, the 3rd gens had for center diff lock?)
Looks like towing capacity dropped 300lbs, too. I don't know if this is because of the SAE J2807 standard or due to some weight and suspension changes...
According to the spec sheet, the 15 speaker JBL is standard on the Limited. What is the difference between the Entune Audio Plus in the base SR5 and TE and the Entune Premium Audio in the SR5 & TE Premium and Limited?
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I doubt that's the case.
I doubt it and hope not and its there in this photo:
https://www.google.com/search?q=201...A&biw=1024&bih=672#biv=i|67;d|QSLaKoDZQgZY1M:
Also DAC is standard for the limited which implies low exists.
It's probably just easier for them to explain which models have a traditional high/low than to explain the Limited having full time 4x4 with locking center diff. and more settings.
FStephenMasek
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Thanks for the link!
Did you notiuce that their quality control on the paperwork is no good; They show the wheelbase of the Trail and Limited as longer than the entire vehicle! That is reason to question the accuracy of the entire document.
I sat in a 2013 Limited at Irvine Toyota yesterday, and the bottom of the backrest of the driver's seat was hitting me wrong, despite my fiddling with the adjustments. I need more time without a pesky salesman hovering, so am looking forward to the auto show. Also, the 2014 seats may be different.
In any case, I'll rent one and drive it at least 150 miles before I buy one, so I do not make the same mistake I made with a Sienna, having to sell it after a month due to severe neck and upper back paint which lasted into the next day every time I drove it on a normal business day, say 100 to 125 miles on average. The seat was poorly made, and the steering wheel slanted left, and I did not catch those flaws on the brief test drives. That was an $8,000 mistake.
I've narrowed down my choices if I buy new to the 2014 4Runner or the 2014 Durango. Keeping my Explorer another 75,000 miles (three years for me) would cost me at least $13,000 (resale value, transmission rebuild, tires, etc.), so keeping it is a possibility, but not likely.
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The Waco Kid
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I think the one thing I'm most upset about is the availability of the factory installed inverter in the base models. I may be wrong on this, but I believe it's tied in with the sunroof equipped model's wiring harnesses (which would make it a "premium" option). I could care less for a sunroof down here in rainy, humid Houston.:violin:
Oh well, just another thing to add in myself. Now to find some build threads with this mod...
Oh well, just another thing to add in myself. Now to find some build threads with this mod...
Whiplash Willy
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A 2000 4runner would be a 3rd gen, which had the 3.4L V6. A 2000 would also have a 4 speed auto, as 1999 was the last year 5-speed Manual Trannys were offered.
Even if you had a 4th gen with the "4.0L" v6, those early models still only had a 4 speed auto, and the 1GR-FE in those didn't have Dual VVTI like the 5th gens 1GR-FE, along with other changes. So one could have problems the other won't have.
Also, it is hard to compare a 10+ year old vehicle to its new version today, as manufactures didn't have to de-content the vehicle as much back then as they do today to meet a certain price point. (ie: cheaper parts/materials)
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Whiplash Willy
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That is true, but they have created a double standard. When they review, say a super car, do they complain that the suspension is too harsh, there is limited interior/storage space, the engine is too loud, and it gets bad MPG?
No they review it from the POV as someone who would buy a super car. Why can't they do the same for true SUV, and stop comparing it to those lifted Mini-van CUVs.
I understand what you are saying. But while the average buyer of a supercar is looking for a sports car (with all that entails), I think that the average buyer of a 4Runner is looking for a tall station wagon to use while ferrying Muffy to school, the mall, dance classes, etc. Those of us who take our 4Runner offroad are by far the minority, IMO.
4Run4YourLife
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The seats in my Limited are not very comfortable. I have to put a rolled up towel to make work for me. I have them adjusted pretty well, but it still bothers me after about an hour or so.
Steamfitter
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I disagree about the sports car. How's my times have you seen a guy in an m3, amg, porsche, etc who's never opened it up and is getting passed by Chevy cavaliers and corollas? My friend has a cayenne turbo, has never opened it up, and drives more conservatively than I do. He says all he cares about is the brand name. He doesn't even care if it will run properly (things are already breaking on his cayenne), it's all about having a fancy emblem.
FStephenMasek
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I'll bet he is also broke and in debt up to his eyeballs.
Steamfitter
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Well he's a salesman with a rich mom, inherited money at a young age. Before this he totaled his mercedes lol.
NoDak
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ok i just read the article from trucktrend.com on the new 2014 4runner when i ran across this
Read more: 2014 Toyota 4Runner First Drive - Truck Trend
that has to be a mis print right? or was this discussed many pages back that i missed in this thread?
Read more: 2014 Toyota 4Runner First Drive - Truck Trend
that has to be a mis print right? or was this discussed many pages back that i missed in this thread?
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There is no way that can be correct.
FStephenMasek
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The Toyota literature (link above) shows the low range is only on the SR5 and Trail. Of course, since they have typos on the wheelbase, who know what else is wrong with that document?
NoDak
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ok I did some cheap analysis and will need to some to verify I got this right.
1. scroll down to # 12 and click the hr-res version
Toyota | 2014 Toyota 4Runner
please note that the limited gets a DIFFERENT COLOR SHIFT KNOB. also note that the H4 and L4 knob selector is still there but from this angle you cant tell what indents it stops at.
2. now based on the shift knob color I found another picture with the same color knob and from a different angle. this actually shows the labels on the selector for H4 and L4
Picture 23 - First Drive: 2014 Toyota 4Runner [Review]
so this would confirm that the rumor of no low gear is false?
can someone verify what I found.
edit : after looking at these pics with more time, the only problem I see is that both pictures are missing the heated seat dials which I know come standard on the limited.
that is throwing me off and make me suspect the pictures.
edit 2 : the really bad part, the first link for pics is actually from Toyota.
1. scroll down to # 12 and click the hr-res version
Toyota | 2014 Toyota 4Runner
please note that the limited gets a DIFFERENT COLOR SHIFT KNOB. also note that the H4 and L4 knob selector is still there but from this angle you cant tell what indents it stops at.
2. now based on the shift knob color I found another picture with the same color knob and from a different angle. this actually shows the labels on the selector for H4 and L4
Picture 23 - First Drive: 2014 Toyota 4Runner [Review]
so this would confirm that the rumor of no low gear is false?
can someone verify what I found.
edit : after looking at these pics with more time, the only problem I see is that both pictures are missing the heated seat dials which I know come standard on the limited.
that is throwing me off and make me suspect the pictures.
edit 2 : the really bad part, the first link for pics is actually from Toyota.
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