hyperthread
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Is it worth it? Or the dealership is just ripping me off? Also, how would I know if they really changed the brake pads?
240 bucks for a brake pads change
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Dougtoms01
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If you can't watch a You Tube video and do it yourself, then I'd say it's worth it.
Agree with Clockwork :hello:
Agree with Clockwork :hello:
hyperthread
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Hello everyone,
I live on an apartment and they won't allow me tinkering with my car anymore. I did before but they caught me and sent me a warning notice.
I might have someone install a brake pads and calipers probably. Someone quoted me with 50 bucks for brake pads installation and 70 for calipers.
What do you think of these parts? Are these all I need to buy?
Brake Pads.
Caliper
I live on an apartment and they won't allow me tinkering with my car anymore. I did before but they caught me and sent me a warning notice.
I might have someone install a brake pads and calipers probably. Someone quoted me with 50 bucks for brake pads installation and 70 for calipers.
What do you think of these parts? Are these all I need to buy?
Brake Pads.
Caliper
hyperthread
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Hi Clockwork,
Not so sure. I bought the car with the pads already on it. Would the parts from Autozone would be fine?
How many miles you got? I know you bought it used but you may have original pads still. Even if you go aftermarket don't buy crappy autozone pads. At least go get some NAPA premiums
Edit: I haven't had to replace mine yet but I'm pretty happy with the OEM pads. If they're not outrageously expensive I'll probably buy them again.
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Whitebeauty
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wow..well dont feel bad from my understanding my brake pads are that much...Get your self i nice set of ceramic pads from discount not the wagner thermoquiets but the wearever gold... the ceramic ones..
Stick with dealer pads. Other pads are likely to squeal or create tons of dust or both. You will see no difference in stopping with exotic sounding pads. The best you can hope for is that the aftermarket pads perfrom as good as the dealer pads. I don't think it is worth the risk.
As for the price. $240 for a pad slap is about right. $70 for parts and $150 for labor then add in tax and shop fee and you are at $240. Assuming of course that they will replace the hardware as well if you live in an area where they are prone to rust.
$50+$70 for pads and calipers is kind of a rip off. Unless you are paying $50 for just pads or $70 for both pads and calipers. There isn't $70 more work in replacing calipers in addition to replacing the pads. I would call it a wash because if you replace pads, you have to compress the pistons for the new pads. If you are replacing calipers you are removing the brake line then bleeding.
As for the price. $240 for a pad slap is about right. $70 for parts and $150 for labor then add in tax and shop fee and you are at $240. Assuming of course that they will replace the hardware as well if you live in an area where they are prone to rust.
$50+$70 for pads and calipers is kind of a rip off. Unless you are paying $50 for just pads or $70 for both pads and calipers. There isn't $70 more work in replacing calipers in addition to replacing the pads. I would call it a wash because if you replace pads, you have to compress the pistons for the new pads. If you are replacing calipers you are removing the brake line then bleeding.
galactic_04
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Hold up, why are you buying calipers??!? Unless one is frozen, don't touch them. Did you mean rotors?
Get some pads and if the rotor is worn down I'd do those too (probably would only need front rotors). Its not hard. Get the autozone tool to push the piston back out in the caliper and you'll be fine (it screws in to push it back in). Other than that I think it's 2 12mm bolts and you pull off the caliper and change the pads out.
If you need rotors, there's 2 more 17mm bolts to pull the caliper bracket off and you hit it with a hammer and the old rotor will come right off. Just make sure while you're doing this to suspend the caliper so it's not tugging on the brake line. A coat hanger from the spring to the bracket usually works well.
Squealing is not the problem of the pad, but the installer. Use the anti-squeal grease when you put them in or you WILL have bad squealing!
Do you have a limited, sr5, or sport? Some limiteds and sports have bigger brakes.
Get some pads and if the rotor is worn down I'd do those too (probably would only need front rotors). Its not hard. Get the autozone tool to push the piston back out in the caliper and you'll be fine (it screws in to push it back in). Other than that I think it's 2 12mm bolts and you pull off the caliper and change the pads out.
If you need rotors, there's 2 more 17mm bolts to pull the caliper bracket off and you hit it with a hammer and the old rotor will come right off. Just make sure while you're doing this to suspend the caliper so it's not tugging on the brake line. A coat hanger from the spring to the bracket usually works well.
Squealing is not the problem of the pad, but the installer. Use the anti-squeal grease when you put them in or you WILL have bad squealing!
Do you have a limited, sr5, or sport? Some limiteds and sports have bigger brakes.
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There's not a manufacturer in the world that makes their own brake pads...and that includes Toyota. There are many good aftermarket brake component companies out there. Wagner, Brembo just to name a few. These companies have been in business for YEARS making very high quality pads...as good or better then many OEM manufacturers (this includes Toyota). There are some brake manufacturers that do make cheaper quality components. But that doesn't mean they all are.
ClockWork
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Unfortunately none of them offer complete kits other than stoptech which are a couple grand.
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scottm
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Where do you live? Are there any do-it-yourself garages like Hands On Garage
I totally agree, and I am sure that Toyota sources from one of them, but the difference is the specs that they are made to. It is a crap shoot buying aftermarket and if you choose wrong, then you can expect squeal and dust. I just don't think it is worth the hassle when you know when you get the dealer pads.
scottm
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AutoZone has a good selection of pads and all the shims and hardware. A little research will tell which pads are better for dust, squeal, performance, longevity, etc. And you can buy all the bits and pieces, take back what you don't end up using. Nice to have new guide pins and seals ready if something looks buggered up, instead of finding out it's a week delivery.
I'm a fan of OEM, order boxes of wear items from a Toyota dealer I know, but you can do well with AutoZone and a little research.
I'm a fan of OEM, order boxes of wear items from a Toyota dealer I know, but you can do well with AutoZone and a little research.
RickC
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I just replaced my front pads. I bought factory Toyota pads. They listed for 76.00, the dealer cut me a 10% discount. It took me about an hour to replace them on the passenger side, because I had to take the time to figure out how it came apart. I did the driver side in 30 minutes. This included jacking the vehicle up and putting it on jackstands. It's two bolts to remove the caliper and two clips with pins to remove the pads from the calipers. Pretty nice design actually.
I think 240.00 to replace pads is a little high, but not too bad from the dealer. But there is no way I would put Autozone pads on it when the price difference is only 20.00. Go with Toyota. Also, I did notice the Autozone pad includes new pin clips and the anti chatter spring. But these can be reused with no problem.
You could order the parts from a dealership, then find an independent mechanic to install it. That may be a little cheaper than having the dealer do it. You can also get the pads for 59.41 from partznet.com. Shipping was another 12.00 though and because of that, I decided to get mine from the dealer so I didn't have to wait.
I think 240.00 to replace pads is a little high, but not too bad from the dealer. But there is no way I would put Autozone pads on it when the price difference is only 20.00. Go with Toyota. Also, I did notice the Autozone pad includes new pin clips and the anti chatter spring. But these can be reused with no problem.
You could order the parts from a dealership, then find an independent mechanic to install it. That may be a little cheaper than having the dealer do it. You can also get the pads for 59.41 from partznet.com. Shipping was another 12.00 though and because of that, I decided to get mine from the dealer so I didn't have to wait.
BlackWorksInc
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That is very true, Stoptech is actually our TRD Supplier for brake components. I think we also get OEM pads from their parent company, since Stoptech is more of a performance branch. Their name is on the tip of my tongue right now...
I don't think it's much of a crap shoot if you use quality parts. I've been using Wagner brake parts for over 30 years. NEVER EVER had a problem with them. They last as long or longer then OEM pads. I'm currently running Wagner on my 4runner now. The OEM pads lasted about 60k miles..The first and second set of Wagners also lasted about 60k miles....No issues with them what-so-ever. Pads from the dealer run about 50% more then what I can buy the Wagners for.
Now for the Caliper problems. You either have to buy new Toyota or aftermarket rebuilt. Toyota doesn't sell rebuilt calipers. My rebuilt aftermarket calipers (rebuilt by Wagner) have lasted as long as my OEM calipers.
