3rd Gen 4Runner Lift Information and FAQ's
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I've heard the same numbers. As others have pointed out, the front numbers seem odd considering the published spring rates for aftermarket "stiffer" springs. (ex. OME 288x being 500 lb/in). Still a bit curious to me.
When it comes to OME, most of the stiffness comes from their shocks, which are valved really firm. IMHO
Lifting 3rd gen, and handling after.
Hello fellow 3rd gen owners! Quick question for all of those who have lifted there runner, How is the steering/on road handling after you lift it 2-3in? Compared to stock, Does it wander all over the road? Or do you end up having to change out steering rack bushings and what not to get it to handle somewhat like stock again? Thanks again!
Hello fellow 3rd gen owners! Quick question for all of those who have lifted there runner, How is the steering/on road handling after you lift it 2-3in? Compared to stock, Does it wander all over the road? Or do you end up having to change out steering rack bushings and what not to get it to handle somewhat like stock again? Thanks again!
Mark_BC
Senior Member
I'm wondering if there is something wrong here. I bought the Tundra 5100 front shocks as recommended. I also got some OME 881X springs which I understand will give me a 1.5" lift or so on the lower perch. But comparing the length of this assembly to the stock one still on the car, the lengths are totally different. The distance from the bottom of the perch to the centre of the lower bolt hole is 11" but on the original from Toyota, it is only 6". How is this possible? I put the spring on the strut and I don't even need a compressor, the top hat slips right over it.
The shocks say
24-232173
B8 5100
Maybe I didn't specify the year of Tundra correctly?
These are them
Bilstein 5100 0.87-2.28" Front Ride Height Adjustable Shocks For 2007-2021 Toyota Tundra
The shocks say
24-232173
B8 5100
Maybe I didn't specify the year of Tundra correctly?
These are them
Bilstein 5100 0.87-2.28" Front Ride Height Adjustable Shocks For 2007-2021 Toyota Tundra
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Mark_BC
Senior Member
Yeah that's the reason. Those Tundra shocks are for 2007 to 2012. These are the ones for 2000 to 2006 which look similar length to the 4runner ones:
Bilstein 5100 0-2.3" Lift Front Shocks for 1996-2002 Toyota 4Runner
Great, now I gotta get rid of those Tundra shocks. I guess I'll just get the 4runner shocks? What's the benefit of the 2000-2006 Tundra shocks over the 4runner ones?
Bilstein 5100 0-2.3" Lift Front Shocks for 1996-2002 Toyota 4Runner
Great, now I gotta get rid of those Tundra shocks. I guess I'll just get the 4runner shocks? What's the benefit of the 2000-2006 Tundra shocks over the 4runner ones?
prybar
Member
I believe the reason people do the Tundras is because they have 5 perch settings as opposed to the 4Runner's 3 perch settings
1st gen Tundra is 2000-2006.
Speedy
Member
It's been 15 years since I did mine but think I used pn from a 2002.
It's all on my YT channel so I assume people look for that info.
I wanted to clarify if you were using Tundra components or 4Runner components. You said Tundra, but listed 3rd gen 4Runner years.
Speedy
Member
Edited my post for clarity. I've had the truck so long I can't remember half the stuff I've done to it anymore lol.
I was wiring up my heated seats this weekend and it took me about 15 minutes to figure out how to open the under hood fuse box. Once I got it opened I saw wiring changes I made 20 years ago so I'd already been there before lol.
I was wiring up my heated seats this weekend and it took me about 15 minutes to figure out how to open the under hood fuse box. Once I got it opened I saw wiring changes I made 20 years ago so I'd already been there before lol.
phattyduck
Elite Member
They are also valved stiffer and have a longer extended length (by a bit, not the giant amount for the later gens shown above).
-Charlie
Call it a Bump or just reviving a 13 year old thread but here goes. I've read the original information here and appreciate the effort by those who are here to help.
My question is since the original postings has any technology or any options changed?
Leaning toward OME springs 2.5" and Bilstien shocks (as my experience with them on Jeeps has been great).
My question is since the original postings has any technology or any options changed?
Leaning toward OME springs 2.5" and Bilstien shocks (as my experience with them on Jeeps has been great).
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Rushthezeppelin
New member
Those OME 2.5" springs are going to highly depend on how much weight you have up front. I have those currently (on OME nitrocharger shocks). I got them in anticipation of a bumper and winch (which I finally ordered the bumper and should have it hopefully in a week or two). Without the extra weight up front they are pretty damn firm. Only extra weight I have currently is aftermarket skids. That's my opinion at least. They aren't terrible by any means but you will definitely feel potholes.
The OP is a little deceptive on this as it does have the 881s as being for stock weight and the 883s as being for additional weight but this is not how OME advertises them. They clearly say the 881s are for 100-200 over stock and the 883s are for 200+.
Also you didn't really resurrect an old thread. This thread is used very regularly.
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Thank You. When I first read the trhead it only showed the old stuff and would not page forward. On the next visit I clearly saw it ws quite active.
Coming from the HD Forum it is common for people to respond as if they are helping the OP, when in reality the thread had been dormant for years. Again thakns. When I have enough post I have a couple of part questions.
Speedy
Member
PSA - after lifting your truck double check clearance between the sway bar and the steering rack, particularly where the inner tie rods are. When I went from 2" to 2.5" lift I didn't notice that was enough to let my Addco sway bar contact my steering rack when at full droop enough for the inner tie rod to wear a hole in my steering rack boots. Energy Suspension extended sway bar end links were cheap and solved my problem, but I also had to replace the steering rack boots. Easy, but could have been avoided.
Truck rides a bit smoother as well with the sway bar parallel to the lower a-arm like it should be.
Truck rides a bit smoother as well with the sway bar parallel to the lower a-arm like it should be.
99 talls with 2wd?
(My first post, so sorry in advance if I'm doing something wrong here!)
Sorry to beat this thread to death, but I've spent days now trying to find out if the 99 tall coil option will work on my 2001 2wd. That or 99 Tall/OME 906 combo. Everyone posting about this seems to have a 4wd, so I wasn't sure if there's something different about the 2wd innards (LCA, strut tower, etc) that would prevent either the 99 tall or maybe OME 880/906 springs from fitting.
I called ARB and they said they didn't know bcuz they've only tested on 4wd. A dude at Wheeler's said he's pretty sure it's not a problem, but I wanted to get a little more certainty before going forward.
2001 4runner 2wd 245k miles. No offroad, no other mods. But load up with camping gear a few times a year, that's why I'm considering 906's in rear. Are those worth the extra stiffness if I'm not offroading?
Btw, I need shocks too. Was thinking of KYB GasAjust since they're pretty cheap and have a good rep. Their website lists the same model for 99 & 01 so i'm guessing I can use stock shock and don't need longer one for the 99 tall springs?
Thanks for any advice!
(My first post, so sorry in advance if I'm doing something wrong here!)
Sorry to beat this thread to death, but I've spent days now trying to find out if the 99 tall coil option will work on my 2001 2wd. That or 99 Tall/OME 906 combo. Everyone posting about this seems to have a 4wd, so I wasn't sure if there's something different about the 2wd innards (LCA, strut tower, etc) that would prevent either the 99 tall or maybe OME 880/906 springs from fitting.
I called ARB and they said they didn't know bcuz they've only tested on 4wd. A dude at Wheeler's said he's pretty sure it's not a problem, but I wanted to get a little more certainty before going forward.
2001 4runner 2wd 245k miles. No offroad, no other mods. But load up with camping gear a few times a year, that's why I'm considering 906's in rear. Are those worth the extra stiffness if I'm not offroading?
Btw, I need shocks too. Was thinking of KYB GasAjust since they're pretty cheap and have a good rep. Their website lists the same model for 99 & 01 so i'm guessing I can use stock shock and don't need longer one for the 99 tall springs?
Thanks for any advice!
phattyduck
Elite Member
Geometry is the same for 2WD and 4WD 3rd gen 4Runners. (well, the upper arms are different in the rear, but not an issue in this case)
You will get more lift in the front (0.5-1") due to the lighter weight without a front diff for any given spring. Rear should be about the same (though there is also a bit of extra weight to there rear due to the transfer case, but that is shared pretty evenly f/r)
-Charlie
