Road Bull
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[MENTION=109102]MattJakobs[/MENTION]
The gears will more than likely be 4.88. I think this is a good compromise for my needs. It won't crush my soul should I stick with 33" for some reason, and they should be fine should I go larger. I am not sure I want to listen to high RPM cruising 70 mph on the highway. At any rate, that should be just fine. I am still tossing around the idea of adding the front locker. That get's pretty close to eating all my fun money though. LOL.
[MENTION=120787]Bijan[/MENTION]
Yeah.. We are in the same ballpark for sure. Haha.. Every time I look at the back or your and [MENTION=143526]theesotericone[/MENTION] 's rig, I feel like I could have gone the Savage rear swing out option. Hahah.. I got the notice that they were "in stock / ready to ship" after being on the waiting list for way too long and deciding to go 4X Innovations. Actually, I really love my bumper. The license plate location.. not so much.:dammit: Anyway. I might see what everything feels like with the 285/75/16's and make a decision from there.
I think that in some ways it would be easier to just go 315/75/16's No need to change wheels out for that jump. Tires are cheaper. You'd just have to do a bit of modding to make it all fit. If I were to do it over, I think I might have gone with a 17" wheel as more manufacturers focus on the larger wheels for their product lines. I really like the idea of the 285/75/17 option at 34.06". It is not really wide like the 35's... But... It IS more expensive and would require a wheel swap.
[MENTION=28808]psraff[/MENTION]
Hahaha, You are not kidding about going back and forth with the various points. And for me, this thread has multi dimensions to it. I figure it's just as much about gears as it is matching them up to ideal tire size for said gears. There's even a little supercharger perspective sprinkled in, (not a real option or desire at this time). I guess what I am saying is that I am not a thread purist, and this discussion will help others down the road brother.
I will play around with it some more and start crunching some numbers. Most of the highways I use around here have a 60 mph speed limit. Some get up to 70 mph when you head east. When I head east over the pass I can feel my stock geared (4.10 probably) 3.4 struggle to keep up with some of the other vehicles in the group. If it was just me, I wouldn't stress or push it hard to keep up. But with a group, I try not to lag too much behind heading through the mountains. I just worry that 5.29 would be great for that situation, and not so great for normal highway driving. Again. I need to crunch some numbers. For reference, I am right at about 2K rpms at 70 mph with my 285/75/16's. So maybe I will crunch some numbers for 315's and the optional 17" 285/75/17 to see what those look like at a 70 mph cruising speed.
I like the idea of 255/85/16's too, but they don't seem to offer much in the way of a height advantage over my 285/75/16's. I always had it in my head that they were a TALL 33" tire. But it doesn't seem to be the case when looking at ACTUAL tire height measurements. I think for a fair amount of what I do, they'd be ideal. But. I went with a couple groups this year during out winter months and hit some DEEP snow. One trip was a lesson in epic recovery. Five hour lesson. :gun6: If I lived further south, I think I would just go with 255/85/16's no problem. The only taller option for 16" wheels jumps right up to 35".
[MENTION=143526]theesotericone[/MENTION]
I have been reading the http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/108367-official-3rd-gen-4runners-35s-pic-thread.html thread. I am trying to research what all would need to happen to make these work, should I want to go this route. I understand that most just tub the contact points at the firewall, relocate the windshield washer fluid tank with a smaller tank, but I haven't heard a consistent answer about the rear clearance. I have the SS extended bump stops. I just wonder if my wheels being a 3.5 BS would push the 35's out into the body, and maybe the filler neck guard. That is something consider and decide if it is worth it going up a tire size.
I could just run the same 285/75/16, and plenty do. I knew I shouldn't have started looking through the 35 thread. :ybrick:
The gears will more than likely be 4.88. I think this is a good compromise for my needs. It won't crush my soul should I stick with 33" for some reason, and they should be fine should I go larger. I am not sure I want to listen to high RPM cruising 70 mph on the highway. At any rate, that should be just fine. I am still tossing around the idea of adding the front locker. That get's pretty close to eating all my fun money though. LOL.
[MENTION=120787]Bijan[/MENTION]
Yeah.. We are in the same ballpark for sure. Haha.. Every time I look at the back or your and [MENTION=143526]theesotericone[/MENTION] 's rig, I feel like I could have gone the Savage rear swing out option. Hahah.. I got the notice that they were "in stock / ready to ship" after being on the waiting list for way too long and deciding to go 4X Innovations. Actually, I really love my bumper. The license plate location.. not so much.:dammit: Anyway. I might see what everything feels like with the 285/75/16's and make a decision from there.
I think that in some ways it would be easier to just go 315/75/16's No need to change wheels out for that jump. Tires are cheaper. You'd just have to do a bit of modding to make it all fit. If I were to do it over, I think I might have gone with a 17" wheel as more manufacturers focus on the larger wheels for their product lines. I really like the idea of the 285/75/17 option at 34.06". It is not really wide like the 35's... But... It IS more expensive and would require a wheel swap.
[MENTION=28808]psraff[/MENTION]
Hahaha, You are not kidding about going back and forth with the various points. And for me, this thread has multi dimensions to it. I figure it's just as much about gears as it is matching them up to ideal tire size for said gears. There's even a little supercharger perspective sprinkled in, (not a real option or desire at this time). I guess what I am saying is that I am not a thread purist, and this discussion will help others down the road brother.
I will play around with it some more and start crunching some numbers. Most of the highways I use around here have a 60 mph speed limit. Some get up to 70 mph when you head east. When I head east over the pass I can feel my stock geared (4.10 probably) 3.4 struggle to keep up with some of the other vehicles in the group. If it was just me, I wouldn't stress or push it hard to keep up. But with a group, I try not to lag too much behind heading through the mountains. I just worry that 5.29 would be great for that situation, and not so great for normal highway driving. Again. I need to crunch some numbers. For reference, I am right at about 2K rpms at 70 mph with my 285/75/16's. So maybe I will crunch some numbers for 315's and the optional 17" 285/75/17 to see what those look like at a 70 mph cruising speed.
I like the idea of 255/85/16's too, but they don't seem to offer much in the way of a height advantage over my 285/75/16's. I always had it in my head that they were a TALL 33" tire. But it doesn't seem to be the case when looking at ACTUAL tire height measurements. I think for a fair amount of what I do, they'd be ideal. But. I went with a couple groups this year during out winter months and hit some DEEP snow. One trip was a lesson in epic recovery. Five hour lesson. :gun6: If I lived further south, I think I would just go with 255/85/16's no problem. The only taller option for 16" wheels jumps right up to 35".
[MENTION=143526]theesotericone[/MENTION]
I have been reading the http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/108367-official-3rd-gen-4runners-35s-pic-thread.html thread. I am trying to research what all would need to happen to make these work, should I want to go this route. I understand that most just tub the contact points at the firewall, relocate the windshield washer fluid tank with a smaller tank, but I haven't heard a consistent answer about the rear clearance. I have the SS extended bump stops. I just wonder if my wheels being a 3.5 BS would push the 35's out into the body, and maybe the filler neck guard. That is something consider and decide if it is worth it going up a tire size.
I could just run the same 285/75/16, and plenty do. I knew I shouldn't have started looking through the 35 thread. :ybrick:
