4Runner newbie brake questions

Woodcutter

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Just bought my first 4Runner, a 2000 SR5 with 137K miles. Has a 2" OME lift by Toytec, with 265/75-16 BFG's on it. Runs good, no visible leaks, doesn't burn oil, no serious issues except brakes. And the AC isn't working, but that's another subject.
Went for CO emissions and they couldn't test because the rear brakes won't hold. Brakes felt a little soft to me when I bought it last week, but stopped well enough.
Could the problem with the rears be simply having not been adjusted (e-brake)? Previous owner had brakes done 10K miles ago - not absolutely sure he had the rears done, but if so, 10K miles seems pretty short for rears to go south.

My usage will be mainly on-road, probably 85% or more, in the Denver metro area. About 60% of that city driving, 40% highway. The rest will be mountain and canyon roads, some trails, camping with family and Scouts, but not crawling. Towing very, very rarely.

So - for the rears, I was thinking of just having a local well-regarded shop do them (Elroy's). But, I'm now thinking I should also look at upgrading the fronts, especially with the lift on it. I'm about 90% sure I'd bite the bullet and do the Tundra upgrade. Question for those who have done it - are you buying new Tundra rotors, or getting used OEM ones and presumably turning them? If buying new, is there a big difference between say, Brembo blanks and OEM?
Also, I've seen a lot of threads on the upgrade, but haven't found much of anything as far as visuals. Is there a good video or photo-rich tutorial around to walk through the procedure?
Lastly - the inevitable question of what pads to use. I'm more concerned with stopping power and longevity than dust, but given the choice I guess I'd like them less dusty. Thinking maybe Akebonos - whatcha think?

Any recommendations greatly appreciated - i know the subject's been beat to death, but fine tuning my options here. Thanks all!
 
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In terms of the rear end, well I don't know how mechanically savvy you are, but you could probably maintenance your own rear braking system. Taking apart the e-brake system, drums, and replacing drums and pads, etc.

Brembo blanks will probably be similar to quality as Toyota OEM rotors. And I went and purchased my rotors brand new from the local auto store. I ended up with Wagner rotors and pads. I went with Wagner ThermoQuiet ceramic brake pads. They are great pads, but are specific to AdvanceAuto. I'm sure there are other brands from other auto stores that are just as good. My truck stops on a dime. I mean, the truck stops dead from 25 mph, and the rear end lifts up.

I have never seen my truck stop so quick. It stops faster than my truck did factory. And I'm lifted up 6-7" with 33's!

As far as pictorials for the Tundra upgrade, the reason there is more talk than pictures is because the install is somewhat simple. The 231mm Tundra calipers are literally bolt-ons to our 3rd gens. The only modifications would be the dust shield needing minor cutting, and some like to upgrade the brake lines.

Trust me, the upgrade job is only hard on your wallet, its really not a hard install.
 
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4yotaguy, from what the emissions guy said I interpreted it to mean brakes as in not the parking brake, but then the guy at the e-station wasn't the brightest knife in the chandelier either - not that I am, mind you...

I was thinking about that and wondered if maybe they just need adjusting.
 
Well, I took it to the brake shop and both inner and outer seals leaked oil all over the inside of the rear brakes. :cry: SOoo, new axle seals, inner and outer, new wheel bearings, new shoes, bled, adjusted, et voila! My rear brakes now work. Fronts were fine but are stock so looking to do the Tundra upgrade maybe later this year. Shop charged $610 including tax, which I guess isn't terrible. The shop that did them previously 10K miles before I bought it must have screwed up (possibly) since supposedly they had replaced seals then too.
Anyways, this one was a present from my wife so ain't complaining!

Well maybe a little whine - the rims on it are stock split 3 spokes, so won't fit with the Tundra 231's. Have to check the fit list and see if I can find a deal on rims.

Next mods - B&M supercooler, then AC repair. After that, put Monstaliner on a narrow strip of the bottom of the rockers, the tow hitch, and possibly the fender flares - drivers side front flare is missing paint (no dents or anything, just paint peeled off). There's a relatively close color match tan Monstaliner that might work out well. Not a big fan of 2-tone so will either paint those to match original Desert Dune or the tan Monstaliner. Not much to do after that on my short list. Possibly a roof basket. Anyway, more of a road warrior and occasional trail rider, not a crawler.
 

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