4Runner tailgate into a Surf tailgate tire carrier

martin.1991911

martin.1991911

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So i have always wanted a tire carrier for my runner but they always needed a bumper to have one but then i cam across the surf mod so i was thinking to do it up too i know it is duable cause Blcktpgsr has done it, looks pre simple except for welding the inner panels for the carrier so it is rugged and mounted strong is there anything i should be aware of or need to be done something more in depth like is the wireing harness the same so I can still roll the window up and down or if there is a build thread on how to do it othere than BLCKTPGSP build please let me know what should needs to be done and once i get all the parts would someone be able to help me out installing it in calagry

Any info would be awsome!!

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The only plausible issue that you may run into is if your 4runners model and that of the Surfs are different....96-98 and 99-02's tailgate wiring harness and module are different.

If this is the case, then all you need to do is swap the entire wiring into the other and you're good to go. Then everything with regards to the tailgates functions will work just as they should.

I already did this once and that's how I know.
 
blcktpgsr said:
The only plausible issue that you may run into is if your 4runners model and that of the Surfs are different....96-98 and 99-02's tailgate wiring harness and module are different.

If this is the case, then all you need to do is swap the entire wiring into the other and you're good to go. Then everything with regards to the tailgates functions will work just as they should.

I already did this once and that's how I know.
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Since my runner is a 99 it will be better off to get a 99-02 hilux hatch so I don't have to mess with the wireing
 
Moves2Music said:
How much did this cost you to do blcktpgsr?
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ahh I got the tailgate and carrier for $1000CAD. $100 for having the reinforcement welded.

ChildrenOfBodom said:
jesus man, you're the topic of conversation on a lot of levels!

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in :hiding: now...YOU're a funny guy man!

martin.1991911 said:
Since my runner is a 99 it will be better off to get a 99-02 hilux hatch so I don't have to mess with the wireing
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Preferably if it's something in your control. I mean where i order, i'm only the recipient of what is available for bid in Japan..I could request but that might take a while to find in the junkyards.

Good luck!
 
Well id pefer not to mess with any wireing and find one that will plug and play but if i cant find one that will i guess i will have to settle with a older version
 
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Changing the wiring should be easy
I'd be more concerned with strengthening the 1/4 panel where the tire carrier mounts.
 
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It's unforunate Toyota did not offer some type of Surf hatch tire carrier option for the North American market.

Having said that, I too would like to explore the ins/outs of completing this mod. Having a reliable source that has completed the project with cost, contact and install info is invaluable or as they say " Priceless "

Thank you inadvance for sharing your experience, Blcktpgsr

Best regards..........8sm
 
:hello:Guys I'm not sure what else I can add and describe to better explain the reinforcement process of the carrier on the quarter panel, but the detailed explanations to the best of my knowledge are all in my build thread.

Check out the long essay i quoted to FoneRunner as you scroll down. There are some photos as well on page 26.
It really isn't easy taking photos of the upper mount inside as the space is confined to get a good shot with a camera.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/67705-blcktpgsrs-97-transformation-33.html
 
blcktpgsr said:
:hello:Guys I'm not sure what else I can add and describe to better explain the reinforcement process of the carrier on the quarter panel, but the detailed explanations to the best of my knowledge are all in my build thread.

Check out the long essay i quoted to FoneRunner as you scroll down. There are some photos as well on page 26.
It really isn't easy taking photos of the upper mount inside as the space is confined to get a good shot with a camera.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/67705-blcktpgsrs-97-transformation-33.html
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how did you weld the nuts on with out destroying the outter paint?? and do you have to weld the nuts on or just bolt up and use big fender washers??
 
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I believe " Foneman " is an addreviated reference to member " FoneRunner " by Blckpgsr in post #12.

Additionally, I have found the two links within post #12; contain very useful how-to information on fastners and reinforcement suggestions ect.....

Further, the welds and reinforcing required to support the tire carrier are better left to a skilled welder/fab craftsman. That's not to say a DIY could not accomplish those skills. Yet, drilling, welding, fabbing on very thin and/or painted body panels require extreme delicacy "ala finesse". Which at times warrant a skill level better left for those with experience.

As a better than average DIYer, I have pucker gauge that tells me that I'm about to do more harm than good. Unfortunately, that pucker skill is built on costly post damage recovery control. LOL.

It's apparent by Blckpgsr projects; his skills and/or acquaintances collectively have completed several impressive detailed mods.


Hope this helps............Regards 8sm
 
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