4runner TRD Pro

Saw my first TRD PRO 4Runner other than mine. Black one heading east on the 210 in Pasadena, CA last Friday. Anyways I've only seen 2 mine and this one.
 
More info I'm posting regarding the TRDPs for anyone that will find this useful. An Inventory Manager sourced this spec sheet for me through his channels:
 

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Great question and a stupid response: it's a habit. I came out of a GLK350 and my other car also requires 93 octane. I have been putting 93 into my cars for the past 5 years out of requirement. There is no scientific reasoning on my part.

I also read the thread on octane with some technical conversations that surpassed my comprehension but I also figured there is no harm in putting a higher octane. This too is just a guess on my part.

Some modern ECUs can now compensate power (increase/retard timing) based on octane. Here we see info stating the newer engine with dual VVT-i makes 254hp/270ft lb on 87 octane while on 91 octane it makes 285hp/289ft lb: http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_GR_engine
 
I do. Several of us, unlike you, try to help out people if we can. Seafoam eh? Must have missed that spec in the owner's manual but you know better I'm sure.

Arguing with an engineer is like wresting a pig in mud. You're not going to win and after a few minutes you realize the pig enjoys it.:caked:
 
Thank you, I may drop down to 87 then and save a few $$

I also came out of an Acura that required 93. I use 93 in my T4R because I read somewhere it's cleaner, purer, helps with knock and maybe adds a bit more power. If you do the math it's only $6 more per tank.
 
After seeing this spec sheet, you'd think Toyota would of at least done a mild brake upgrade for the higher MSRP and proposed advantages/capabilities of the Pro models? Maybe throw on the TRD pads and/or slotted/cross-drilled rotors or something... geez!

On a side note: I see so many guys in pick-ups running around Southern California w/big tires & lift kits but are still running stock brakes doing 80+ down the freeway... makes me nervous to even be near those knuckleheads!
 
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After seeing this spec sheet, you'd think Toyota would of at least done a mild brake upgrade for the higher MSRP and proposed advantages/capabilities of the Pro models? Maybe throw on the TRD pads and/or slotted/cross-drilled rotors or something... geez


There are quite a few guys on here driving trucks far heavier and more capable then the "PRO" on stock brakes without issue. When you NEED to stop they will surprise you.
 
After seeing this spec sheet, you'd think Toyota would of at least done a mild brake upgrade for the higher MSRP and proposed advantages/capabilities of the Pro models? Maybe throw on the TRD pads and/or slotted/cross-drilled rotors or something... geez!

On a side note: I see so many guys in pick-ups running around Southern California w/big tires & lift kits but are still running stock brakes doing 80+ down the freeway... makes me nervous to even be near those knuckleheads!

Have you panic braked in your 4Runner yet? If not make sure you go to a deserted piece of highway before you do it. Get it up to about 65 and hit the brakes like a deer ran out in front of you. You will stop! QUICKLY! Everyone should do this because the 4Runner is a bit different than other vehicles because it feels like the hand of God is pushing against you the first time you do it.

The brakes are lasting a long time too. We have some guys getting close to 100K out of their stock brakes. Mine looked fine at 70K on my '11 model.
 
Have you panic braked in your 4Runner yet? If not make sure you go to a deserted piece of highway before you do it. Get it up to about 65 and hit the brakes like a deer ran out in front of you. You will stop! QUICKLY! Everyone should do this because the 4Runner is a bit different than other vehicles because it feels like the hand of God is pushing against you the first time you do it.

I do this when I have a passenger refusing to wear a seat belt.
 
Yes, the OEM brakes are pretty good, but the Pro is running a larger tire + higher center of gravity than all the rest of the models (as you well know)... I just think Toyota could at least dip their little hands into the parts bin and at the very least, throw on those TRD pads they so easily push in the accessory department. :-)

Curious, does the Pro have the braided brake lines like the Trail?

Also, not to derail this anymore than I already have (sorry)... has anyone used those TRD pads and noticed much of an improvement?
 
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Yes, the OEM brakes are pretty good, but the Pro is running a larger tire + higher center of gravity than all the rest of the models (as you well know)... I just think Toyota could at least dip their little hands into the parts bin and at the very least, throw on those TRD pads they so easily push in the accessory department. :-)

Curious, does the Pro have the braided brake lines like the Trail?

Also, not to derail this... has anyone used those TRD pads and noticed much of an improvement?

Pretty sure tire size is 265.
 
Yes, the OEM brakes are pretty good, but the Pro is running a larger tire + higher center of gravity than all the rest of the models (as you well know)...
same size tires and with a nominal 1" lift in the front only the center of gravity is effectively the same as all the other trim levels. the Pro requires no additional braking power — pure poppycock.
 
Some modern ECUs can now compensate power (increase/retard timing) based on octane. Here we see info stating the newer engine with dual VVT-i makes 254hp/270ft lb on 87 octane while on 91 octane it makes 285hp/289ft lb: http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_GR_engine
Interesting info. If it truly adds another 30hp, im all about paying a few more bucks per fill up. I wonder why toyota claims 270hp ? I know it doesn't say with 87 octane fuel, but one would think that is what they used in their testing since that is what they recommend. Changing timing can make a big difference on HP numbers, but I wouldn't have thought 30hp
 
Have you panic braked in your 4Runner yet? If not make sure you go to a deserted piece of highway before you do it. Get it up to about 65 and hit the brakes like a deer ran out in front of you. You will stop! QUICKLY! Everyone should do this because the 4Runner is a bit different than other vehicles because it feels like the hand of God is pushing against you the first time you do it.


How's this for a panic brake on a 4Runner? Sadly this was my 2010.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/members/444-albums-2010+4runner+lifesaver.html
 

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